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Unread 02-20-2012, 11:33 PM   #31
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I won't argue though you seem not to realize this is the AMAs allocation for what is to be considered and flown within their sanctions as a park flyer. These are their restrictions based on safety issues. A plane doing 120mph in a park isn't exactly the SAFEST thing in the world.

Agree to disagree I suppose.
It's generally what has been come to be known as a park flyer by pretty much all pilots.. Something that can comfortably be flown in a park with friendly bystanders watching on. It sends the wrong message when you start to fly heavy aircraft, or fast aircraft. Besides, the least we can do is accept what the AMA has set forth as definitions, otherwise radio control model aircraft would be pretty much shut down in this country, as of late.

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Unread 02-21-2012, 06:56 AM   #32
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It's generally what has been come to be known as a park flyer by pretty much all pilots.. Something that can comfortably be flown in a park with friendly bystanders watching on. It sends the wrong message when you start to fly heavy aircraft, or fast aircraft. Besides, the least we can do is accept what the AMA has set forth as definitions, otherwise radio control model aircraft would be pretty much shut down in this country, as of late.
Why? Because the AMA's members panicked after that A-hole was going to fly a jet into the pentagon filled with explosives? The only thing the AMA has saved from being taken away are jets. Nothing else was ever in danger of being shut down.
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Unread 02-21-2012, 09:00 AM   #33
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Here's some cool FPV footage from a guy in Park City. I WILL be building one of these setups


I'd want to build one that includes the on-screen display... kinda like this

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I've been thinking about doing the same thing. Sounds like if you want to get out of eyesight with it, you need a HAM license.
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The added available frequencies can't hurt. My buddy that has been flying for ~10 years says that with some of these tripod antenna/repeater systems you can push the distance out a few miles or more.

Also, there are some really cool autopilot setups. You can program a flight plan, take off, fly the plane manually until it gets to be out of range, then kick on the autopilot and have it run its course. It can sit there and loiter over an area for a while, recording video to be reviewed later or transmitting it back to you real time. After it has run its plan, it will return to base where you can take over manually again to land it.
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Unread 02-21-2012, 10:52 AM   #36
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Why? Because the AMA's members panicked after that A-hole was going to fly a jet into the pentagon filled with explosives? The only thing the AMA has saved from being taken away are jets. Nothing else was ever in danger of being shut down.
It was not AMA members, it was the FAA wanting to ground ALL model aircraft activities after numerous threats, incidents with full size size aircraft and model aircraft, as well as many incidents with bystanders from inconsiderate and idiotic pilots. The FAA had quite the arsenal of evidence that they needed to shut down modelling entirely in the USA. Everything from small walmart toys all the way up to Jet-A burning turbine jets.

And FWIW the threats they received were from some towel head thinking he could waltz right into a hobby shop and buy the cheapest EDF Jet he could find, stuff it full of 10lbs of explosives, and fly it into the WhiteHouse. An experienced modeler would know that 3 strikes means you're out (of your mind)
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I've been thinking about doing the same thing. Sounds like if you want to get out of eyesight with it, you need a HAM license.
You need a spotter to make sure you're not going to fly the plane into a civilian aircraft or a building or whatnot. Someone with binoculars works quite well.

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The added available frequencies can't hurt. My buddy that has been flying for ~10 years says that with some of these tripod antenna/repeater systems you can push the distance out a few miles or more.

Also, there are some really cool autopilot setups. You can program a flight plan, take off, fly the plane manually until it gets to be out of range, then kick on the autopilot and have it run its course. It can sit there and loiter over an area for a while, recording video to be reviewed later or transmitting it back to you real time. After it has run its plan, it will return to base where you can take over manually again to land it.
2.4ghz works off of line of sight. So if you can situate yourself where the transmitter and see the airplane, then you're only limited to 4-5 miles. Which quite frankly is rather far for a model airplane when you think about it.
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haha Your battery would likely die before you get that far....depending on how fast your plane is. I wanted to set up a fpv setup for a while but just never got around to it. Its pretty involved
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Since we're all posting up videos...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C_3iBUVXiA



It was not AMA members, it was the FAA wanting to ground ALL model aircraft activities after numerous threats, incidents with full size size aircraft and model aircraft, as well as many incidents with bystanders from inconsiderate and idiotic pilots. The FAA had quite the arsenal of evidence that they needed to shut down modelling entirely in the USA. Everything from small walmart toys all the way up to Jet-A burning turbine jets.

And FWIW the threats they received were from some towel head thinking he could waltz right into a hobby shop and buy the cheapest EDF Jet he could find, stuff it full of 10lbs of explosives, and fly it into the WhiteHouse. An experienced modeler would know that 3 strikes means you're out (of your mind)
Show me where the FAA has said they want to ground model aircraft.
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Show me where the FAA has said they want to ground model aircraft.
Don't hold your breath.
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Don't hold your breath.

I know

FAA has never said any of those things he mentions.
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It will take time to dig it up, but basically the FAA wanted to ground a lot of airplanes, anything over about 3lbs, wingspans bigger than 2M, flight speeds excess of 100mph, etc. A LOT of airplanes are easily capable of that, so we would be limited to parkflyers, essentially. No more fast airplanes, no more large gliders, no more dynamic soaring, no more FPV, nothing, essentially. A LOT of the modelling community lies within the aforementioned things. If the FAA gained control over those things, I haven't a single dobut in my mind that they would eventually re-evaluate and shut down modelling entirely. But here is what the outcome was:

http://www.modelaircraft.org/news/me...enateBill.aspx
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haha Your battery would likely die before you get that far....depending on how fast your plane is. I wanted to set up a fpv setup for a while but just never got around to it. Its pretty involved
Not really, any sport plane can fly that far easily, such as an Eflite Mini Pulse. And get back too on one battery, you can't forget that we're seeing 15-20 minute flight times with mixed throttle use. Hell I had a Sig Rascal .40 (which is no small airplane by any means) that I routinely got 10 minutes off of on a 4000mah 15C pack at near full throttle, which came down as warm. Could easily fly a 10 mile round trip.
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I guess thats true. We used to run lipos on our gws planes that still had brushed motors and I literally could fly it for a half hour if I was careful
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BTW, anyone ever thought about those fpv systems that have servo mounted cameras where you can look around? I got to dig up a video of a guy who shot amazing footage like that.

here it is: http://youtu.be/M5ZZtsYUobA
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