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Unread 02-20-2012, 09:41 AM   #16
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I damn near bought a V tail Bonanza in 89 for 10k....wish I had now, they're "collectable"

I love these planes, they're simply awesome...
Beech had an AD shortly before that, the V-tails were shearing and killing folks left and right...Your ten grand investment would have been a drop in the bucket with the 20 grand or so required to fix the fuselage before it would be airworthy again.
Got to admit though, they are a pretty sharp looking airplane!

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Unread 02-20-2012, 09:41 AM   #17
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Over 50lbs and they require a very specific license in order to fly them, because otherwise they can be deemed a hazard to fly.

Bill Hempel makes 50-60% scale airplanes (that's half the size of the real airplane), and he doesn't fly them gingerly:

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Unread 02-20-2012, 09:43 AM   #18
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Beech had an AD shortly before that, the V-tails were shearing and killing folks left and right...Your ten grand investment would have been a drop in the bucket with the 20 grand or so required to fix the fuselage before it would be airworthy again.
Got to admit though, they are a pretty sharp looking airplane!
Yeah, I was aware of that...I was going through A&P school at the time. This one was already "fixed".

edit: I think it was ...it's been a long time...
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Unread 02-20-2012, 10:03 AM   #19
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Expensive hobby. I joined the AMA for about a year, got really into it. Was a lot of fun while it lasted but I found my desire to pour moolah into my Jeep outweighed the RC plane. I still remember watching guys come out with hand launch park flyers that zip around at 120-150mph. Things were just plain sick!
I built a flying wing that hand launched and went 125. I beefed it up with as much carbon fiber as i could but it still just flew it self to pieces over time haha.
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Precisely.

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Expensive hobby. I joined the AMA for about a year, got really into it. Was a lot of fun while it lasted but I found my desire to pour moolah into my Jeep outweighed the RC plane. I still remember watching guys come out with hand launch park flyers that zip around at 120-150mph. Things were just plain sick!
Those aren't parkflyers... Too fast... Only an idiot would fly something that quick in a public park.

That being said, their speed pales in comparison to this:

http://youtu.be/rfoxjNg-eg0

Horrible camera work, I know, but they do have an official record for worlds fastest radio controlled aircraft. And it's powered by wind!!
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Those aren't parkflyers... Too fast... Only an idiot would fly something that quick in a public park.
Park Flyers are classified by weight, size, and mobility, not by speed.
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All very cool. Looks like a ton of fun. I've been thinking about building (a) small recon drone(s) ala

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All very cool. Looks like a ton of fun. I've been thinking about building (a) small recon drone(s) ala http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdZAIt7OrPs&NR
Ever since I saw the guys at DEFCON a couple years ago messing with cheap GPS nav'd drones, sending video back to their iPhones real-time, I've wanted to build one...
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Park Flyers are classified by weight, size, and mobility, not by speed.
As per the AMA, this is the definition of a "park flyer":

Park Flyer models will weigh two pounds or less and be incapable of reaching speeds greater than 60 mph. They must be electric or rubber powered, or of any similar quiet means of propulsion. Models should be remotely controlled or flown with a control line, remain within the pilot’s line of sight at all times, and always be flown safely by the operator.

There aren't much limitations for size (I.E. wingspan and fuselage length) because some gliders may only weigh 18oz, but can have 80"+ wingspans.

Anything else is not a park flyer by the true definition. Multiplex FunJets can often reach speeds of 160mph+ and weigh as much as 50oz.
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Oh, really?!

I had to do it...
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Not really... The most I've ever heard of someone investing into a model airplane is about $30k, for a twin turbine model.
Yep, as I said, that $30K price is more than some flyable airplanes I have priced in the past. Not ultralights, I mean real airplanes... I've found older used Pipers and Cessnas for sale under $30K a number of times. I wish I would have bought one when I could have afforded it.

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and I just watched that video. I don't want this to come out wrong but those landings were ****ty. Those pilots should not be owning planes of that size and power if they dont know how to safely operate them. I could do a better job then most all of those landings haha whatever those are great models.
Landing an RC airplane while standing off to the side at an angle isn't as easy as it may seem. I'm a pilot and it's difficult enough to land a real airplane in a cross-wind, let alone remote-control land a model airplane in a crosswind when you're not inside it to better manage the controls. Even great pilots occasionally make bad landings... RC or real.

Some of those landings were scary/almost fatal for the airplane but that's RC for you. You can bet big $$$ the pilots running the controls weren't beginners at RC.
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I mean trust me I know how hard it can be to land an RC. I cant even imagine the real thing. I tried the simulators for a while and just couldn't get the hang of it. In general as far as RC goes though, the bigger the plane the easier it is to fly. My assumption though is that it was really windy on the day of the event and they couldnt simply postpone. Also as always with those scale contests, those planes arent kits, they are literal scaled down models from original plans, so it usually takes a better part of the year just to design and build it....their owners aren't really flying in their free time haha.
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As per the AMA, this is the definition of a "park flyer":

Park Flyer models will weigh two pounds or less and be incapable of reaching speeds greater than 60 mph. They must be electric or rubber powered, or of any similar quiet means of propulsion. Models should be remotely controlled or flown with a control line, remain within the pilot’s line of sight at all times, and always be flown safely by the operator.

There aren't much limitations for size (I.E. wingspan and fuselage length) because some gliders may only weigh 18oz, but can have 80"+ wingspans.

Anything else is not a park flyer by the true definition. Multiplex FunJets can often reach speeds of 160mph+ and weigh as much as 50oz.
I won't argue though you seem not to realize this is the AMAs allocation for what is to be considered and flown within their sanctions as a park flyer. These are their restrictions based on safety issues. A plane doing 120mph in a park isn't exactly the SAFEST thing in the world.

Agree to disagree I suppose.
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