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post #1 of 19 Old 04-20-2017, 08:44 AM Thread Starter
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Keeping snakes away

My former storage shed has now turned into a work shop. It is a metal building with gravel floors. I have lined where the walls meet the ground of the shed with cedar logs and that has done a good job of keeping bugs out, but not mice (snake food). I throw out poison for mice and that seems to help but I still find nests.

Now that it has become a work shop myself and my son will be spending more time there. I would like to do what I can get rid of pests, esp venomous ones.

Last night while locking up I say a snake. I live in the woods and the common snakes my way are copper heads and black snakes. It was night and my pole light does light the exterior somewhat but not really well but I know the snake I saw was not a black snake.


My plan to keep away snakes is to clear all brush and bushes a few feet back from the building. Kill all grass and other plants 1-2 foot from the building (I may have to lay down some river gravel or chat). I will spray for bugs around the outside and inside and rat poison in hopes to eliminate or at least decrease their numbers. I plan to keep the interior well light all the time and everything high enough off the ground to help eliminate hiding places.

Anybody have any other suggestions for keeping snakes away?

I built my home in the woods about 10 years ago. I know the critter were there long before I was but I don't want the insides of my home garages or sheds.


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post #2 of 19 Old 04-20-2017, 08:47 AM
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I heard moth balls keep away snakes, maybe someone can confirm that. I also hear most farming/gardening stores typically have a lot of stuff to repel snakes.


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You could try a pet mongoose...

Probably easier to pour a concrete slab and make it clear to the critters that the area isn't for them.

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You could try a pet mongoose...

Probably easier to pour a concrete slab and make it clear to the critters that the area isn't for them.


A concrete slab would have been nice but wasn't in the original plan. I though about doing just a concrete floor, and it may happen someday. The shed is on a slight slope and the floor isn't level so that would take work. I am sure a concrete floor would help allot.


A mongoose would be cool but I am not sure how easy or legal they are to domesticate. My dogs do a great job around the house but they are on an electric "leash" that doesn't allow them to go as far as the shed unless they want to get the shocked.

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I heard moth balls keep away snakes, maybe someone can confirm that. I also hear most farming/gardening stores typically have a lot of stuff to repel snakes.


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I have never tied that but people around me have tried moth balls, snake repellent's and various oils and scents and those don't seem to work.

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i found that a cattle shock wire can kill a snake. seen a few on the bottom wire, along with a few rabbits. if they get pinned between the wire and fence. On the other hand for some odd reason it attracted fire ants. they would attack it. in time there was huge dead piles of them. they would even stack on them selves to get to it like World War Z zombies try to get over the wall.
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I feel that gravel or concrete might entice your slitherirng companions into the area all that much more. The gravel and concrete will hold the warm temps from sunlight or ambient temperature a lot longer than grass would and cold blooded critters look for warm areas like that to get their blood flowing. Do you know how/were the critters are getting in? Do the walls of the storage shed not come all the way down to the ground?

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Until you know exactly what is underneath the, well, not really sure what to call them...mistakes...it's hard to come up with a plan of action.
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I feel that gravel or concrete might entice your slitherirng companions into the area all that much more. The gravel and concrete will hold the warm temps from sunlight or ambient temperature a lot longer than grass would and cold blooded critters look for warm areas like that to get their blood flowing. Do you know how/were the critters are getting in? Do the walls of the storage shed not come all the way down to the ground?


This is the building. The walls come to the ground but ground moves, critters dig and there are gaps. We have filled it in with gravel and the edges are lined with small cedar logs. It is a metal shed in the woods and it will never be tight enough to keep mice and snakes out. That is why I am looking for other ideas. The electric wire 222Doc seems to be a good idea. I like the mongoose idea but that just doesn't seem practical.






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If the black snakes are King Snakes let them be, they're your friends. They eat the snakes that you don't want there.

I wish I could convince my wife of that. We live next to a creek and I don't like water moccasins in our pool.

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[QUOTE=Ross;37972570]

My plan to keep away snakes is to clear all brush and bushes a few feet back from the building. Kill all grass and other plants 1-2 foot from the building (I may have to lay down some river gravel or chat). I will spray for bugs around the outside and inside and rat poison in hopes to eliminate or at least decrease their numbers. I plan to keep the interior well light all the time and everything high enough off the ground to help eliminate hiding places.

Anybody have any other suggestions for keeping snakes away?

I think your plan is a good one. Eliminate their cover and food source will take care of most. I'm sure you will occasionally find one passing thru, just try to make sure they have no reason to stay. You can always get a few chickens or Ginny's, I've heard they can help keep snakes away.

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I have pulled out and cleaned up everything , all shelves/benches are off the ground high enough to easily see underneath. I have put out rat poison and kept the lights 24/7 on and no evidence of anything.


Before if my dogs came into the shed they would go crazy sniffing around and now they sit there calmly.


We are working on our first project. Originally it was designed for a john boat and a canoe, not it will be set up for 5 kayaks and a canoe.



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Dig a trench around the building so it's directly under the the walls, then fasten a 2 or 3ft wide strip of hardware cloth around the bottom board, and bury the hardware cloth in the trench. You want the cloth to go down from the bottom board then curve out so it's almost flat and buried several inches. Mice etc try to dig in, hit the cloth and since it curves back they can't dig under it.
Laying something against the walls will just make them dig farther to get inside, but won't stop them.
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My suggestion would be...... Heh heh heh heh!!


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Puppy , hardware cloth in a trench was my first thought too .
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