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Unread 12-26-2009, 05:53 PM   #1
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K9 Protection Training Business *w/video*

So I am getting out of the Airforce in a couple months and I am wanting to open up a dog training business to train police K9's and personal protection dogs as well as breeding working German Shepherds. So I made this promotional video today of some clips I have during the training. What do you think?



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Unread 12-26-2009, 06:40 PM   #2
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That's awesome man. I loved watchin that. German sheps are one of my fav breeds.


Definitely don't wanna **** with that dog.
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Unread 12-26-2009, 06:53 PM   #3
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Nothing personal, but I think your "training program" is lacking... sure you have the dog "attacking" when you tell it to, but is seems like you are having trouble getting the dog to stop!

Granted, I am not a trainer at all... but why do you have to hit the dog with a stick? To piss it off so it keeps attacking?

Like I said, I am not a trainer, but when viewing your video, and "looking" for this kind of service, I would probably keep looking... It just doesn't look to me like you are a professional, or have been doing this long enough for me to spend any money with you....

I am just giving you MY honest opinion here... and you know what they say about opinions and butt-holes... everyone has them!

I am not saying that you should do something else.. I am just saying that you should get some more experience, and some more dogs under your belt (friends, relatives?) before you start selling/training animals as a "professional"

Like I said, this is just my opinion... take it for what its worth, and I only hope that my opinion can help you from an outside view... I don't want to discourage you, I want you to excel. I just think that as of right now, its going to take more work.


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Unread 12-26-2009, 07:16 PM   #4
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To the responder: The stick is used to build the dogs courage and is not used to "piss" the dog off or make him viscious. If you watch closely the dog is not being hit hard and the stick is foam covered and bendable. The dog must not back down to any object in the suspects hand and some trainers will train the dog to take the arm with the "weapon". Viscious dogs cannot be used in K9. Temperment and drive and of course genetics make these dogs what they are.
To the original poster: breeding is an art form and done best by pros. Not that you could not do it but it is time consuming and only about 30% of any litter can be considered K9 quality. Any dog can bite, but bite, hold and the out on command takes time. Tracking, area and building search, article and narcotics or explosives all come into this at the Law Enforcement end. Single purpose protection is easier. Remember, start with quality dogs, travel to Europe/Slovakia/Holland. See how the pro's do it. Lackland is not were the pro's are. N.C is loaded with supplier/trainers check them out.
Good luck with your venture, it will be a tough road with long hours.
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I have always had a question regarding this type of training. Do the dogs remember and "hate" the training assistant that they are attacking? IE can your "buddy" in the video and the dog be friends when through with the session. Can he come over to and in your house without the dog wanting to "get him"?
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Nothing personal, but I think your "training program" is lacking... sure you have the dog "attacking" when you tell it to, but is seems like you are having trouble getting the dog to stop!

Granted, I am not a trainer at all... but why do you have to hit the dog with a stick? To piss it off so it keeps attacking?

Like I said, I am not a trainer, but when viewing your video, and "looking" for this kind of service, I would probably keep looking... It just doesn't look to me like you are a professional, or have been doing this long enough for me to spend any money with you....

I am just giving you MY honest opinion here... and you know what they say about opinions and butt-holes... everyone has them!

I am not saying that you should do something else.. I am just saying that you should get some more experience, and some more dogs under your belt (friends, relatives?) before you start selling/training animals as a "professional"

Like I said, this is just my opinion... take it for what its worth, and I only hope that my opinion can help you from an outside view... I don't want to discourage you, I want you to excel. I just think that as of right now, its going to take more work.


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The stick is called a "clatter stick" it is made from bamboo that is sliced into 4 sections and makes noise when it is struck against something. You can beat yourself silly with it and not cause pain. It just makes noise and gets the dog used to biting while something is touching him and making noise. I dont beat the dogs I am no "professional yet as becoming pro at this takes alot of time I have done it for a little while with the Airforce and trained a few dogs from local people. It will take me many years to get really good. Thanks for the reply.
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I have always had a question regarding this type of training. Do the dogs remember and "hate" the training assistant that they are attacking? IE can your "buddy" in the video and the dog be friends when through with the session. Can he come over to and in your house without the dog wanting to "get him"?
No, not at all. I would say if anything they are closer now that they have become fighting partners. Also I do not use the same decoy every time. I have 3 that I alternate between.
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I have a question. What do your neighbors think about the training being done in the open? Are they afraid to come outside while your training? Reason being, I have a husky and she will not do anything but lick you to death but I still have a neighbor that is terrified of her. Kinda funny, but I think your dog would give her a heart attack. Can I borrow her?
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I have a question. What do your neighbors think about the training being done in the open? Are they afraid to come outside while your training? Reason being, I have a husky and she will not do anything but lick you to death but I still have a neighbor that is terrified of her. Kinda funny, but I think your dog would give her a heart attack. Can I borrow her?
Actually we have quite the crowd alot of the times. They all come out and watch and think its awesome. I get alot of dumb questions or sometimes they want me to train their lab or golden retriever in this kind of work and that just isnt going to happen. Its hard enough finding a good shepherd to do this work with. Let alone a breed that was never designed for this kind of work to begin with.
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Thank you for the clarification on the use of the "stick". Like I said, I am not a trainer, and it didn't look like you were beating the dog with it... just kinda tapping..

After I posted, I was hoping that I didn't come off sounding like a complete jerk... I am glad to see that you took what I said the way it was meant.. sometimes it is hard to convey "tone" with words..

Anyway, I think it's cool that you are doing this, and I really hope you are successful at it.


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Is there a "happy medium" with this training??? I have a Doberman whos as gentle as you would want a dog to be, she looks scary yes, but hasnt got a protective bone in her body I believe...Is it possible to have her the way she is now but to train her to be protective when needed?? shes 2 years old.
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Is there a "happy medium" with this training??? I have a Doberman whos as gentle as you would want a dog to be, she looks scary yes, but hasnt got a protective bone in her body I believe...Is it possible to have her the way she is now but to train her to be protective when needed?? shes 2 years old.
Absolutely. My personal GSD is great around everyone. Friends and family and such. He loves my 4 year old. My son Colton pulls on his lips and wrestles with him and is basically just a bi pain in his arse most of the time but he loves it and has never done anything aggressive towards him. He is still our big family baby. Just now he packs a punch if we need him to This training really takes your relationship with the dog to a whole new level.


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