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Unread 01-27-2008, 07:37 PM   #1
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Jeep vs Explorer

OK guys just from reading the title you prolly wanna kill me for asking. But just hear me out. I'm a jeep guy all the way, had a few wranglers no XJs tho. My brother is looking for a 4x4 SUV, under 3000, and American . His best options seem to be a XJ or an Explorer. I see that a lot of guys throw the 8.8 in your jeeps. So my question is what makes the jeeps better than an explorer, Ford obviously has a better rear, seems to me the V8 would be more desirable. Anifi may ask, I know I am on a Jeep site, but can I get a least a few un-biased opinions, I am just trying to have my bro get the best vehicle for his money. Thanks alot guys,

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Unread 01-27-2008, 07:39 PM   #2
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My friend with a 2" lifted explorer cant go where my XJ with a 2" lift can go. The ground clearance on the explorer is awful.
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Unread 01-27-2008, 07:42 PM   #3
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good to know, thanks.

forgot to add he will be doing some light wheeling with it, maybe susp. lift a few inches and 32 or 33. but alotta highway driving as well
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Unread 01-27-2008, 07:45 PM   #4
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all i gotta say is:

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extremely aftermarket friendly

and if it were me...and i had an option of a xj or some other SUV...it'd be a durango, not an explorer.

i hate ford...try changing the plugs and wires on one of your 'explorers'....should be called an exploder. front wheel bearings MIGHT last 60k miles, engine might make it to 125k, and the trans WILL blow by 100k. costing you thousands to fix. and if you're thinking v-8 power...i hope you like to waste 6.5 hours changing plugs. and dont even get me started on water pump and alternator changes...ugh.

but on the good hand, explorers are cheap, the rear is great, comfort and ride quality are good, i like the style and feel of the interiors, and i do like the wheels...i'm putting a set of 02 escape/explorer/sport track wheels on my jeep. along with the 8.8.
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solid axle>IFS
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i have ridden in both, and they ride about the same stock. the rear end is very stout on an Explorer, but the front end is crap compared to an XJ. the rear seats are nicer in the explorer, just because it is a bit larger/roomier. i havent wheeled one, but i see more offroad "ready" XJs, then explorers. thats just my opinion, but im sure others will chime in as well.
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They call them EXPLODERS for a reason. Everybody I've ever known that had one, ended up replacing the transmission in it. My sister had one, blew the tranny, had a brand new one from the factory installed at Mr. Transmission, 6 months later it crapped out. Replaced under warranty, this time it lasts for a year, replaced again. Finally she sold it and bought a Jimmy. Don't be an idiot by buying an exploder, yes they have great rear axles and the motors run forever, as long as you don't mind the loud ticking that most of them do. Do it right the first time and just buy a jeep. IMO
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solid axle>IFS
That is not a true statement. There's plenty of times when the difference is not meaningful in any way, times when IFS is better, and times when solid is better.

Depends on what you're using it for. http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/solid-axles-v-ifs-85823/
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the xj can take a huge beating..the 4.0 in the jeeps is known to hit 300k pretty often. and ofcourse the explorer has ifs which is junk for offroad
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Unread 01-27-2008, 07:59 PM   #10
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That is not a true statement. There's plenty of times when the difference is not meaningful in any way, times when IFS is better, and times when solid is better.

Depends on what you're using it for.
i'd have to disagree competely..i'd never want ifs for wheeling i cant think of 1 benefit to ifs besides ride quality on the street.

torsion bars limit flex, cv boots rip like nothing, the whole setup is alot heavier
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It all depends on what he wants out of the car. The Jeep has the definite advantage in durability especially since the aftermarket is so kind to it. In my opinion, this is a HUGE plus for a lasting investment.
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solid axle>IFS
True the solid axle has its advantages, but it all depends what your trying to do.
In some situations IFS is better, look at those rally trucks that run through the desert for example. They are running over 500hp, jumping 10, sometimes 15 feet into the air all day long and never break down. Could an ordinary solid axle do that? Hell even the Army uses IFS in their hummers and what not.
So while you may be entitled to your opinion, it all depends on what the person is trying to do with it
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torsion bars limit flex, cv boots rip like nothing, the whole setup is alot heavier
Plus a solid axle is much easier to modify (lift). No way in heck a d35 IFS setup is better than a HP d30 solid axle.

He said he was building a mild offroader, not a prerunner. Plus I highly doubt the IFS in an exploder is up to the task of prerunning
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I used to drive a '93 Explorer. Pure garbage. It has absolutely no power either. I couldn't pass anything uphill. The only plus it has over the XJ is more cargo space.
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Unread 01-27-2008, 08:05 PM   #15
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Well longevity is the most important factor, and I do believe the jeep is best in that department. However, it seems I can get a 97-98 Explorer for the same price as a 91 Jeep. So that being said would you guys recommend getting an older Jeep, rather than a newer Ford?

Thanks for all the input, making my decision a lot easier
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