I was scammed by daniel hays _ 98xj - Page 48

GLANGA88 · 08-29-2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dakuda

Paypal's 'protection' is a joke.

No one reads the fine print either which clearly states when and when you will not receive reimbursement and recourse and the second they get screwed expect PayPal to back them up.

**ChiliPalmer** · 08-29-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GLANGA88

Something I don't get, maybe I'm missing something but he lives in Clintwood, VA right? How come that is out of the Clintwood PD's jurisdiction and has to be handled by the Sheriff?

As mentioned in a prior post it's not uncommon for someone to have a city address but live outside the city. It used to be the same way in Elkhorn, NE. I used to live in a neighborhood on the edge of town and if/when the cops were called it would be County Sheriff, not the Elkhorn PD (Of course the Elkhorn PD had nothing better to do so you would always see them tagging along with the Sheriff's

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hayseed777 · 08-29-2008, 12:17 PM

Anyone who logs onto the NCIC (National Criminal Information Center) or any state Law Enforcement Telecommunications System has a username + password. Usually there is a camera posted around the terminal if it's in a law enforcement desk. Every input and info request is logged and saved. I doubt your "source" is dumb enough to provide you with information garnered from it. If they are, they deserve the repurcussions.

**dakuda** · 08-29-2008, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GLANGA88

No one reads the fine print either which clearly states when and when you will not receive reimbursement and recourse and the second they get screwed expect PayPal to back them up.

I never lost a dime, but from what I gather: if someone empties their account, there is no money left to refund to you.

I did get about 4 Paypal credit cards with different names at my address in about two days. My account was closed as soon as that happened. I have no faith in their security.

GLANGA88 · 08-29-2008, 12:38 PM

I havent either luckily but I am very weary about shipping to unconfirmed address and as soon as I get paid for parts I empty it right into my account to keep the person from doing a false chargeback and running away with my goods. Luckily I work in a bank too.

They can try and go after a persons bank account or card if it is linked to their paypal address but people have ways around that so paypal can not always recover funds. If you are covered up to their certain amount, they will just put the person's account in the negative which doesn't have much of an affect either. I don't think having a negative account on paypal affects your credit at all but I could be wrong.

Their security is a joke just like ebays.

Jkanly · 08-29-2008, 02:20 PM

I lost $28.00 to paypal.

I paid $18.00 + $10.00 shipping. The ***** sent me a set of cracked, scratched, falling apart taillights that were the wrong ones! So, as everyone suggested, I went to Paypal claims and disputes and they told me to send the tail lights back to the seller with shipping on my dime. Shipping them back was going to cost me another $10 and she was willing to send me only $18 back - the cost of the actual taillights... leaving me with a $20 loss on the deal either way

On top of all that, she gave me a negative rating. What a deal

cheap5.0 · 08-29-2008, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dualsub2006

Famous last words. An interstate records request is going to toss up a red flag regardless of how far out in the sticks your source is. It isn't like he is getting anonymous access to the records databases. A prosecutor in Virginia knows without asking who accessed the file, where they are located and who they work for.

Your source either knows this but wants you to think he is cool or he is too stupid to be in the position that he is in. My bet is on the former.

Who said i was going to go out on that limb for a stranger? I have used him locally when we get abandoned cars or whatever, but i am not going to go flying off the handle for an internet crusade.

cheap5.0 · 08-29-2008, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hayseed777

Anyone who logs onto the NCIC (National Criminal Information Center) or any state Law Enforcement Telecommunications System has a username + password. Usually there is a camera posted around the terminal if it's in a law enforcement desk. Every input and info request is logged and saved. I doubt your "source" is dumb enough to provide you with information garnered from it. If they are, they deserve the repurcussions.

Wherever the info comes from, its reliable and its accurate. I am so sorry you doubted me!

dualsub2006 · 08-29-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cheap5.0

Who said i was going to go out on that limb for a stranger? I have used him locally when we get abandoned cars or whatever, but i am not going to go flying off the handle for an internet crusade.

Then why not just shut up?

Jkanly · 08-30-2008, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dualsub2006

Then why not just shut up?

Hey now .. violence is not the answer.

88 - Any word from Danny boy? Has he called you at all?

Cherokeegrrl · 08-30-2008, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by hayseed777

Anyone who logs onto the NCIC (National Criminal Information Center) or any state Law Enforcement Telecommunications System has a username + password. Usually there is a camera posted around the terminal if it's in a law enforcement desk. Every input and info request is logged and saved. I doubt your "source" is dumb enough to provide you with information garnered from it. If they are, they deserve the repurcussions.

Alright now ... I worked Police lookups and here's the deal. We're civilians working for the PD. They make a traffic stop (or whatever reason they might have) & call us for information, sometimes with multiple requests. They might give us a name, licence number, whatever. We look up the person(s) with the info we're given & pass that on to the cops. Frequently the person might be from out of state, it makes no difference. It's what we do all day long. I know there are strict laws against using the system for personal use, and ALL calls are recorded & logged, but who's to say that this lookup of D. Hays' info didn't originate from a police request?
Understand that I'm not at all advocating breaking the law, and my integrity prevented me from ever doing so. But in my town I know how the system works and it would take a LOT of fishing to prove that I slipped in an isolated lookup for my own use, especially in the midst of a series of requested searches.

NOW BACK ON TOPIC.

NJeepyj91 · 08-30-2008, 08:15 AM

Wow! Over 700 rounds fired and no clear outcome. I'm down with the convoy idea but, I am disturbed his Mom was brought into this and her pic was put up. I know it was up on myspace, but visiting Danny's sins upon his Mom is not right.

Danny should refund the money and pianoman should send the rusted POS back. Done deal. Danny should pay for the shipping.

Greg_Volkman · 08-30-2008, 09:09 AM

this thread has my vote for longest thread that should have ended a long time ago...

cheap5.0 · 08-30-2008, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dualsub2006

Then why not just shut up?

Getting ****y now aren't we? Chill, its the INTERNET

BaystateTJ97 · 08-30-2008, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg_Volkman

this thread has my vote for longest thread that should have ended a long time ago...

X2 just close it because clearly it's gonig nowhere...

08-29-2008, 12:17 PM	#708
hayseed777 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Southeast Posts: 21 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	Anyone who logs onto the NCIC (National Criminal Information Center) or any state Law Enforcement Telecommunications System has a username + password. Usually there is a camera posted around the terminal if it's in a law enforcement desk. Every input and info request is logged and saved. I doubt your "source" is dumb enough to provide you with information garnered from it. If they are, they deserve the repurcussions.