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post #1 of 15 Old 09-20-2009, 10:12 PM Thread Starter
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I'm not liking my Jeep thing right about now



Take the Jeep wheeling and broke a brake line drivers rear. Replaced said brake line but couldnt get bleeder nipple out to bleed my brakes; too rusted. Okay, so I undo the line a little and get most of the air out. Brakes still need bleeding but they were usable. I then drove it home to go to the Nascar race this morning. All is well. When I got back, I figured I would try to bleed it before I drive back to school.

Whudda you know? The bleeder nipple snaps off. And come to find out after removing the drum, the brake cylinder is leaking. Great, you can kill two birds with one stone you might say; just replace the brake cylinder and youll have a new nipple and everything. Nope. Not on a 13 year old Jeep Cherokee with 167k miles on it. The bolts holding the brake cylinder on are rusted and rounded off as soon as I turned the socket.

As you may or may not know, a simple one corner brake bleed has just turned into a day long project. Now I must pull the diff cover, center pin, c clip and axle shaft and hope that the backing plate bolts come out.

I say **** it until further notice. I left the Jeep on jack stands with its brakes all torn to hell. I borrowed my grandfathers truck and drove an hour to school in hopes of one day being able to get a good job and purchase a new Jeep that doesnt have these issues.






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post #2 of 15 Old 09-20-2009, 10:18 PM
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Welcome to a day in the life of a Jeep owner, of course I'm sure you already knew that.

I like the comment about day long projects though, seems to be the popular trend with me. I get started on what is supposed to be a minor project and it takes me the better part of the weekend to do..and that is even after several trips to the hardware store, several trips to get more beer to cope with the increased stress levels, etc. etc.

Apparently I cant quit while I'm ahead because each weekend I find myself back out there doing it all over again. It's a Jeep thing, I don't even understand it sometimes.

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Welcome to a day in the life of a Jeep owner, of course I'm sure you already knew that.

I like the comment about day long projects though, seems to be the popular trend with me. I get started on what is supposed to be a minor project and it takes me the better part of the weekend to do..and that is even after several trips to the hardware store, several trips to get more beer to cope with the increased stress levels, etc. etc.

Apparently I cant quit while I'm ahead because each weekend I find myself back out there doing it all over again. It's a Jeep thing, I don't even understand it sometimes.
Haha my friends are like that thing sure costs you a lot of money. Its worth it when it all is working. I guess there is a bright side, I could upgrade to discs seeing as I have it all apart...

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Haha my friends are like that thing sure costs you a lot of money. Its worth it when it all is working. I guess there is a bright side, I could upgrade to discs seeing as I have it all apart...
Bingo. When something breaks, never waste money simply repairing it, use it as an opportunity to upgrade.

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Bingo. When something breaks, never waste money simply repairing it, use it as an opportunity to upgrade.
Well, while I have it open, I could through a locker in it and regear it and put chromalloy shafts in it

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Well, while I have it open, I could through a locker in it and regear it and put chromalloy shafts in it
See now that is the right attitude, heck why are you wasting time with the upgrading the old axle. Just put in a new stronger axle. Drop a dana 60 in there and then go break the front so you have a reason to replace it.


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I feel your pain, mine is being emo again and leaking.

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Just grind the heads off of the bolts, 5 minutes and problem solved.

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You should consider swapping in a Ford 8.8. If you find the right one you can have a limited slip diff, 4:10 gears, disk brakes, and a stronger axle. Just make sure you pull one out of a newer explorer if you want the disk brakes.
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Just grind the heads off of the bolts, 5 minutes and problem solved.
Now that is a good idea. If only I had an angle grinder

edit: just looked, I dont think I want to spend that much money on something Ill use once. Is it the proper tool to cut out my rockers to replace them?

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Now that is a good idea. If only I had an angle grinder

edit: just looked, I dont think I want to spend that much money on something Ill use once. Is it the proper tool to cut out my rockers to replace them?
You'd be amazed at the amount of things you will end up using an angle grinder for, I'd pick one up if you get the chance. Yes you can use an angle grinder with a cut off wheel to cut out sheetmetal.

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Whudda you know? The bleeder nipple snaps off. And come to find out after removing the drum, the brake cylinder is leaking. Great, you can kill two birds with one stone you might say; just replace the brake cylinder and youll have a new nipple and everything. Nope. Not on a 13 year old Jeep Cherokee with 167k miles on it. The bolts holding the brake cylinder on are rusted and rounded off as soon as I turned the socket.
I had that same problem - except with a set of brakes that had never received a new cylinder since 1977. My fix - I took a cold-chisle and hammer, wacked the heads off the bolt, cut the hard lines and just replaced everything in one nice easy shot ..

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Just grind the heads off of the bolts, 5 minutes and problem solved.
Or just center punch them & drill them off......

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You'd be amazed at the amount of things you will end up using an angle grinder for, I'd pick one up if you get the chance. Yes you can use an angle grinder with a cut off wheel to cut out sheetmetal.
Im pretty sure that you are the smartest man alive. I went and bought a 7.5 amp Porter Cable 4.5 inch angle grinder with a couple different kinds of discs. That thing made short work of those stupid bolts. Best $50 I have ever spent.

I decided to do both sides while I had the diff cover pulled. The other brake line was shot also. All rusted to hell. I replaced everything except the drums. So basically I have a completely rebuilt rear brake system

I bled it pass side first then drivers side and theres no air left but its still not quite the same as it was before. Brakes are properly adjusted. but this is for tech not here lol

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