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Unread 03-09-2012, 10:44 AM   #76
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I wouldn't shoot them (Don't want it on My concience) Let the vet do it the right way.
Not trying to start anything, but it's thoughts like these that get people all worked up. As I said before, I will never shoot my dog, or any, unless it's really really needed. And if I did, i'm sure I'd be useless for sometime afterwards. But if my friend needs to put their dog down, I'll help them dig the hole and load the gun for them if they asked. I respect their opinion and ways of doing things.

It's gonna be the vet for me. But if anyone thinks the other option is better for their best friend then I'll pat you on the back and apologize for you loss. Simple as that.

So there really is no "right" or "wrong" way when it comes to this. It basically boils down to how any one person feels about it and the situation they are in.

Also, I'm sorry to hear that everyone in this thread has lost an animal. It's life, but I'm still sorry to hear it all.

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Unread 03-09-2012, 01:07 PM   #77
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My wife and I have this discussion ALL the time. I think that a bullet is the most humane way; they're comfortable just chilling outside and then bang lights out with no pain. At the vet I know my dogs will be terrified because they don't have to go very often and when they do go they're not happy. Would I shoot my dogs myself? No way...couldn't do it. However, my dad firmly believes in a 30-06 close range as quick as possible...very humane in my opinion.
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Unread 03-09-2012, 01:39 PM   #78
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30-06, hell, why not a 12ga slug or if your going that far, rocket launcher..........
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Unread 03-09-2012, 02:38 PM   #79
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Idk I just couldn't see me blastin my dog in the face with a bullet while he stands there looking at me. Just seems effed up.
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Unread 03-09-2012, 03:13 PM   #80
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30-06, hell, why not a 12ga slug or if your going that far, rocket launcher..........
hell, go with the C4. we have a yorkie, imagine what a 30-06 or slug would do to that?? I think the round is bigger than the dog to start.
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Unread 03-09-2012, 03:45 PM   #81
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Why not just wrap their head in ****ing C4 then?

I would never shoot one of my animals (I have many of them) unless I absolutely had to.

How do you know it's painless to get shot in the head? Have you tried it?
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Unread 03-09-2012, 04:09 PM   #82
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Why not just wrap their head in ****ing C4 then?

I would never shoot one of my animals (I have many of them) unless I absolutely had to.

How do you know it's painless to get shot in the head? Have you tried it?
Come on now..
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Unread 03-09-2012, 04:12 PM   #83
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I was talking with my grandpa about dogs. Let's say Fido is on his last leg. Can't see or hear or walk. Is it humane to shoot him or is it better to have him euthanized? Grandpa says its ok to put your own pet down. That's prob because he is old school and that's how it was done 60 years ago. What do you fine people of jeep forum think?
Don't want him to suffer.

And, where I come from, a man shoots his own dog - rather than leaving it to a proxy who might muff it.

I'm not that old, but I've had to put down a few pets and working animals, and that's just what I'd learned over the years. It just makes sense to me.

(NB: "Shoot your dog" is euphemistic for ending the animal's life yourself. With smaller animals - dogs and down - you can also use ether or similar and OD them on anaesthetic. Same result, but cleaner and painless.)
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Unread 03-09-2012, 04:43 PM   #84
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Why not just wrap their head in ****ing C4 then?

I would never shoot one of my animals (I have many of them) unless I absolutely had to.

How do you know it's painless to get shot in the head? Have you tried it?
How do you know it's painless to be euthanized? Have you tried it?
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Unread 03-10-2012, 07:58 AM   #85
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This is a sad thread. The very thought of having my own dog pass is a terrible feeling. I'm sorry you have to deal with it; I hope you make the right decision. Personally, I'd never be able to look my dog in the eyes and moments later blast a round into his head. I think it'd haunt me forever.

Also, this thread is somewhat fascinating when you really think about the relationships that people have with their dogs. It's crazy how you can grow to love them as if they are a true member of your family.
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Unread 03-10-2012, 09:30 AM   #86
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This is a sad thread. The very thought of having my own dog pass is a terrible feeling. I'm sorry you have to deal with it; I hope you make the right decision. Personally, I'd never be able to look my dog in the eyes and moments later blast a round into his head. I think it'd haunt me forever.

Also, this thread is somewhat fascinating when you really think about the relationships that people have with their dogs. It's crazy how you can grow to love them as if they are a true member of your family.
My dog was part of the family...we'd play, he was a protector, he was funny...I'd smack my ex on the leg, look at the dog (Rotty) say "oww"...he'd look at her and growl.

He went with us on the road, from Va, to La, lived with us in the Kenworth on my last driving gig...gave the boy up in the bronx a shock when he tried to sneak up in the cab while we were unloading...he came back shaking, I just winked at him

I miss the old boy...
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Unread 03-10-2012, 09:53 AM   #87
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Everyone has their own threshold for what they consider cruel vs humane. Personally, I could never shoot my own dog, regardless of how much suffering she was having. My dogs have always been like family members. I watched both of my last 2 golden retrievers succumb to cancer. They went from strong, intelligent animals, to weak and forgetful. Running and retrieving, to stumbling and falling over their own legs. Through it all though, they were "my girls" and they remained proud and honorable companions. I never had to make the decision to end their lives voluntarily. I was able to spend time with them at the end and gain some closure before they were gone. My last memory with them certainly was not going to be ending their life by shooting them.
As a doc, I've seen many people die, so I have a pretty good perspective on an honorable death. We never think about putting a bullet through grandma's head. To me, there is no difference.
I've spent much of my life as an animal advocate and to this day spend time and money rescuing dogs. I'd spend $1000 in a heartbeat to save a 15 year old dog before I spent it on my Jeep.
Dogs are not material goods or property. If you're not willing to take full responsibility for an animal like you would a child, buy yourself something that's not a living, loving, completely loyal friend.

Off to hug my 8 year old golden and 4 year old black lab.....
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Unread 03-11-2012, 10:45 AM   #88
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Everyone has their own threshold for what they consider cruel vs humane. Personally, I could never shoot my own dog, regardless of how much suffering she was having. My dogs have always been like family members. I watched both of my last 2 golden retrievers succumb to cancer. They went from strong, intelligent animals, to weak and forgetful. Running and retrieving, to stumbling and falling over their own legs. Through it all though, they were "my girls" and they remained proud and honorable companions. I never had to make the decision to end their lives voluntarily. I was able to spend time with them at the end and gain some closure before they were gone. My last memory with them certainly was not going to be ending their life by shooting them.
As a doc, I've seen many people die, so I have a pretty good perspective on an honorable death. We never think about putting a bullet through grandma's head. To me, there is no difference.
I've spent much of my life as an animal advocate and to this day spend time and money rescuing dogs. I'd spend $1000 in a heartbeat to save a 15 year old dog before I spent it on my Jeep.
Dogs are not material goods or property. If you're not willing to take full responsibility for an animal like you would a child, buy yourself something that's not a living, loving, completely loyal friend.

Off to hug my 8 year old golden and 4 year old black lab.....
I feel like I appreciate my dog more after reading through this thread.
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Unread 03-11-2012, 01:41 PM   #89
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I was raised to believe and still do believe that putting down an animal was a responsibility of ownership. I have had many animals that I have considered true friends that I have had to put down. Yeah not any fun but somethings have got to be done.
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Unread 03-11-2012, 08:39 PM   #90
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I was raised to believe and still do believe that putting down an animal was a responsibility of ownership. I have had many animals that I have considered true friends that I have had to put down. Yeah not any fun but somethings have got to be done.
Having them euthanize at a vet is being responsible and putting them out of their misery its just a more humane way to do it. You can hold them and pet them and talk to them as they drift off to the big sleep instead of pointing a gun at them and scaring them. If your shooting them to put them down its probably not the first time they have seen a gun so there is a good chance they know what's about to happen. I would not be anything but terrified if the roles were reversed. I want my dogs last moments to be as good as they can possibly be instead of terrifying. It's all personal preference though. Your the one that has to live with the decision you make so YOU should do what feels right to YOU. Just as long as you don't let your best friend suffer because your to selfish to deal with what should be done your good in my book even if I don't agree with the method. As long as you can step back and say its time we don't want the dog to suffer for god knows how long its time to put him kit of its misery and let it die with atleast some dignity. Being selfish and letting the dog suffer because you can't handle having to make the decision to put the dog down. Now that's inhumame in every possible way. And when you make the decision that it is that time just make it as quick and painless as possible. My dog is getting old in a few more years I will have to make this decision but thankfully for now at 11 years old he is still full of energy and plays like a puppy. I did wake up a few weeks ago and I thought he had a stroke and that was it I was gonna have to put him down. I was a mess that morning. Turns out he got vestibule old dog disease. It comes on like a switch mimic a stroke and after about 3 days they can usually start walking again and inside of 3 weeks they are back to normal like nothing ever happened. They have no idea what causes it though. It's actually very rare for dogs to have strokes and a lot of vets misdiagnose vestibule disease as a stroke and euthanize the dog. So if it ever looks like your dog had a stroke ask your vet if it may be vestibular disease. If they don't know what it is go to another vet and find one that knows what it is. Otherwise your dog may get put down many years early because of misdiagnosis. I almost kissed my vet when I was told he will be fine and return to normal in 3 weeks give or take and after 3 days there will start being a lot of improvement every day
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