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Unread 03-13-2005, 10:42 AM   #1
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hows this for flex?????



Went to a local show yesterday, ad a guy in our club had to sho off on the rti ramp.

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Unread 03-13-2005, 11:17 AM   #2
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How many "Is it broken?" comments did you get?
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Unread 03-13-2005, 11:36 AM   #3
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Your shock is way too long.
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Unread 03-13-2005, 11:40 AM   #4
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thats just a little tooo much..
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Unread 03-13-2005, 12:00 PM   #5
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Your shock is way too long.
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Unread 03-13-2005, 01:31 PM   #6
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just a question, byut what igofsh just would be a troll correct...not so much slammed the guiy, but its kinda like a no reason comment, which some would take as a slam.
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Unread 03-13-2005, 01:33 PM   #7
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sorry i said that wrongh, but what igofsh just said* is what i meant
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Unread 03-13-2005, 01:37 PM   #8
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The back tire hitting the fender looks almost fake..
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Unread 03-13-2005, 01:48 PM   #9
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just a question, byut what igofsh just would be a troll correct...not so much slammed the guiy, but its kinda like a no reason comment, which some would take as a slam.

Nope - he actually brings up a good point...

Look at where the top of the coil spring is in relation to the spring perch. SLIGHTLY more droop and that spring would fall off. As it is, the body isn't putting any weight down on that tire and it's only traction comes from the weight of the axle, wheel and tire, which in the scheme of things isn't much.

People are starting to think there is such a thing as too much flex, and my understanding is the short answer is that for most situations - if your coil is unseated, it's flexed too much. I don't know a whole lot about coil springs as I'm sold on the AiRock airbag system as soon as other things are ticked off the to-do list and the money is there - so that means I haven't really looked into how spring rates and everything works as I'm no longer interested - but I'm thinking possibly a taller but softer spring would allow it to exert some pressure on the wheel, but on level ground would still sit at the same ride height... you might get more body roll though.

People now are starting to prefer a well balanced suspension setup with greater stability - and lockers for when there isn't enough flex.

That is a very nice Jeep though - just not ideal for what I want. It sure does well on that RTI ramp though.
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Unread 03-13-2005, 02:28 PM   #10
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but him saying that comment,,i would think that guy knew his spring was drooping like that..it is way too long of a shock, but wouldnt he know that...
im just trying to find where the fine line of trolling and not trolling is...
not trying to start a fight if anyone takes it as that
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Unread 03-13-2005, 02:38 PM   #11
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but him saying that comment,,i would think that guy knew his spring was drooping like that..it is way too long of a shock, but wouldnt he know that...
im just trying to find where the fine line of trolling and not trolling is...
not trying to start a fight if anyone takes it as that

Not everyone has that same understanding. People learn things the hard way. One example is the guy that goes by the username "Beast40" - his Jeep has been through MANY configurations - from extreme amounts of flex to a current more balanced system with what they call "usable" flex.

I don't consider igofshn to be trolling in this case, despite what his username says
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Unread 03-13-2005, 02:46 PM   #12
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just a question, byut what igofsh just would be a troll correct...not so much slammed the guiy, but its kinda like a no reason comment, which some would take as a slam.
I have no idea what you said in the above statement.
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Unread 03-13-2005, 02:48 PM   #13
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I dont even think the Jeep belongs to the guy who posted the pic. So it really shouldn't receive much defensive feedback. But other opinions is not a bad thing. I wouldnt consider it trolling. Maybe if he said "You're an f-in idiot, and that shock is way too long. A REAL jeeper would have known that. You must be a parking lot wheeler." THen I could see the trolling argument. However, some constructive criticism isnt bad. Plus, Igofshn does post a lot of useful information, so I wouldnt think his comment was meant to be offensive or incite an altercation.
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Unread 03-13-2005, 03:34 PM   #14
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I dont even think the Jeep belongs to the guy who posted the pic.
It doesn't...but I wheeled with Dave (who actually owns the Jeep) last weekend in Tellico...Jeep performs the same way on the trails:






I didn't mention the shock to him...but I did point out he had about 1" left of brake line flex...

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Unread 03-13-2005, 03:37 PM   #15
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The back tire hitting the fender looks almost fake..
"almost"...but it's not...

on a side note, those Maxxis Creepy Crawlers will flat out stick to a rock (see rear tire):




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