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Unread 02-09-2008, 02:36 PM   #16
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With WB defecting to BRD, I'm calling the war over, and I have HD DVDs here, I'm not planning on buying more, but I don't regret it, at the time, the movies I wanted to watch were all on HD DVD, most of them still are and it's not like they magically stop working when Blu Ray takes off.

One thing though, if you don't mind having two players, you'll be able to pick up HD DVDs on closeout for next to nothing.
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Unread 02-09-2008, 06:15 PM   #18
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Blueray can store more info than HD can, which is cool. But from everything I've read blueray has massive compatibility issues, discs that barely run on any machine, slow frame rates, 5 minute load times for a movie etc. Video quality is supposed to be equal between the 2, but I've heard the audio on the BR is worse. I'm guessing that the studios are either ignorant of the complaints or just hoping like hell that they'll get resolved. Long term wise, the greater storage capacity is the better way to go, but right now I don't want one. I've got an HDDVD, and it irritates me to no end to know that eventually it will be worthless for new movies.

But the upscaling on standard DVD's kicks ***, and HD discs really kick *** on my 54" plasma. I bought an upscaling only dvd player a couple weeks before I bought the HD, and the upscaling is better on the HD.
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Blueray can store more info than HD can, which is cool.
Blu-Ray = 2 layers x 25GB = 50GB disc
HD-DVD (new spec) = 3 layers x 17GB = 51GB disc

The thing is, the new triple layer discs will work with all existing players. If Blu-Ray develops any new storage capacities, very few existing players prior to the new spec's launch will be capable of playing them. As a standard, all HD-DVD players come with an ethernet port for updating purposes; Blu-Ray standards regard that as optional. So, to keep costs down and sell more players, not very many are being released with that feature.

Personally, I'm going to keep my HD player since it's the add-on for the 360 and works with my PC as well. Even if Blu-Ray "wins", I can load up on cheap titles. It's not like the technology is going to become automatically inferior (from a technical standpoint, HD and BR are virtually identical), there just won't be any more titles released eventually but I can still enjoy the ones I have until the next major format is on the horizon.
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Unread 02-11-2008, 08:37 AM   #20
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Netflix has gone all Blu-Ray DVD



BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. - Netflix Inc., the online movie rental company, said Monday it is switching exclusively to the Blu-ray format for high-definition DVDs, following four major movie studios in selecting the Sony technology over one pushed by Toshiba Corp.
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Toshiba and Sony have been vying to set the standard for high-definition DVDs for several years. The stakes are high because the winner will also get a boost in sales of DVD players needed to read the new format.

The Walt Disney Co., Sony Corp.'s Sony Pictures, News Corp.'s Twentieth Century Fox and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer have endorsed Blu-ray. Paramount and Universal Studios publish their high-definition DVDs in Toshiba's HD DVD format.

Netflix has stocked both formats since they became available in 2006, but said the decision of four of the six major studios to issue films only in Blu-ray format made it likely that the Sony format will prevail.
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Toshiba and Sony have been vying to set the standard for high-definition DVDs for several years.
This is so stupid, because the formats are identical in terms of quality and performance... oh wait, Sony owns the rights to one of them, so it's 351,623x better. If you want to get down to it, Blu-Ray is actually a little weaker because the protective layer on the storage medium is only 0.1mm thick (compared to 0.6mm for DVD/HD-DVD and 1.2mm for CD).

You can bet your sweet *** I'll be making a copy of every Blu-Ray title I buy.
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You can bet your sweet *** I'll be making a copy of every Blu-Ray title I buy.
Uh-oh, you just made a list somewhere The thin protective layer is a well thought out plan to sell the same disc over and over. Definitely not an oversight.
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So which one will computers come equipped with?

edit: and what does this mean for us folks who only have a standard DVD player at the moment?
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So which one will computers come equipped with?
I see no reason for HD DVD to come standard on machines now, BRD has a theoretically higher storage limit, but HD DVDs are advantageous from a movie standpoint because they're not so tightly controlled by the studios.
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So which one will computers come equipped with?

edit: and what does this mean for us folks who only have a standard DVD player at the moment?
Not a thing. They'll still be releasing everything on standard DVD for a long time. Eventually the market itself will phase them out as people upgrade. But you have to figure that a majority of the US doesn't have a HD tv, and upgrading to a HD video format is just a waste of money for them. I imagine wanna be techno geeks will upgrade their player and talk about how much better the picture is... even tho it will still be at standard def. Someday the majority will change, but not soon.
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This is so stupid, because the formats are identical in terms of quality and performance... oh wait, Sony owns the rights to one of them, so it's 351,623x better. If you want to get down to it, Blu-Ray is actually a little weaker because the protective layer on the storage medium is only 0.1mm thick (compared to 0.6mm for DVD/HD-DVD and 1.2mm for CD).

You can bet your sweet *** I'll be making a copy of every Blu-Ray title I buy.
They developed some type of scratch-resistant coating for it. They tested it, works fine.
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HDDVD can't get much closer to death...
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I own an HD-DVD player, as said it's up-conversion is amazingly good. Spectacular, in fact.
Biu ray is more expensive than hddvd is, by about 5 bucks per disc, but both are 10 bucks more than sd.
I buy 90% sd dvd's and let my hd player upconvert it and am happy.
Not sure the public will accept $35 dvd's. That is the price of a bluray.

I got this from Netflix, today...
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NETFLIX - We're Going Blu-ray
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Dear Thomas,

You're receiving this email because you have asked to receive high-definition movies in the HD DVD format. As you may have heard, most of the major movie studios have recently decided to release their high-definition movies exclusively in the Blu-ray format. In order to provide the best selection of high-definition titles for our members, we have decided to go exclusively with Blu-ray as well.

While we will continue to make our current selection of HD DVD titles available to you for the next several months, we will not be adding additional HD DVD titles or reordering replacements.

Toward the end of February, HD DVDs in your Saved Queue will automatically be changed to standard definition DVDs. Then toward the end of this year, all HD DVDs in your Queue will be changed to standard definition DVDs. Don't worry, we will contact you before this happens.

You can click here to change your format preferences.....
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Best Buy has long sided with Blu Ray because the profit margin is higher, HD DVD is the cheaper format, both in terms of players and discs. Consequently the de facto HD machine that was hooked up was a blu ray box and the HD DVD boxes were typically either not present, or hooked up with substandard cables to degrade the image.

Blu Ray won because it had:
a: Better marketing &
b: A cooler name.

You can tell how uninformed the average consumer is about these things because they'll swear blind that Blu Ray looks better than HD DVD, when the truth is there's no significant visual difference between the two formats, if anything they could be forgiven for saying that Blu Ray SOUNDS better, since the only manifestation of the lower HD DVD capacity is compression on the audio track, but visually the two formats are identical.

These people are probably the same ones who say they can tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p when watching a 24fps movie.

ie. They're talking out of their ***.
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