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Unread 02-09-2008, 06:52 AM   #1
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Is an HD-DVD player worth it now?

I've noticed that the prices of the Toshiba HD-DVD players have come down a good bit in just the last couple months. BestBuy and Circuit City both have the HD-A3 and HD-A30 models for $149 and $199. Thats a pretty good deal compared to what they were just a few months ago and Blu-ray players. Is it worth it? I heard somewhere that Blu-Ray already won the format war? Is this true?

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Unread 02-09-2008, 07:22 AM   #2
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I am in the same boat right now. I think blu-ray will be the dominant player but both will be around for a long time. Do you play any video games? My plans are to buy playstation 3 and it already plays blu-ray dvd's, so I kill two birds with one stone. The price of the ps3 will be more than what you found for the hd dvd player but some hd dvd's and blu-ray's are almost the same price. You just have to shop around. I am not going to buy anything until the summer time. Hopefully by then one player will become more dominant and I can make my decision. Good luck with what you decide.
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HD DVD players have plummeted in price because they are losing the format war and they are scrambling to get sales. Practically every studio is moving to BluRay.

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I'm even holding off on the Blue-Ray for now to see if it sticks. It looks like a lot of companies are pushing for downloadable movies and movies on demand thus doing away with discs and store fronts that rent them.
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How does the compatablility work? Can you play a regular DVD in a blu ray player? Can you play an HD DVD in a blu-ray player?
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You can play dvd in either blue ray or hddvd players, but you have to pay extra for a player that plays both hddvd and blue ray. From talking to a store in town, they told me blue ray is winning, the only thing that is keeping the hddvd going is the porn industry, because its cheaper for them to produce.
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How does the compatablility work? Can you play a regular DVD in a blu ray player? Can you play an HD DVD in a blu-ray player?
Both players will play regular DVDs and upconvert them to 1080i for HDTV's. But a Blu-Ray player can't play HD-DVD's and vice versa.
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I've read articles that said Blu Ray players that are currently out (except for the PS3) are obsolete because of planned changes in the programming (the PS3 is built to accept the upgrade whereas other Blu Ray players are not). The PS3, all things considered, is the best Blu Ray player on the market. As far as HD-DVD goes, I have a Toshiba A30 and I really like it. Yes, HD-DVD doesn't have as many studios on their roster, but the ones they have - Universal and Paramount - make up a HUGE portion of the movie world. It helps that I ended up getting 10 HD-DVDs for free when I bought it, so that made it worth while for me, even if it ultimately loses the "format war." It's up-conversion feature works well - some movies are obviously better than others. It doesn't seem to like my Futurama DVDs at all, but up-converted Gladiator looks spectacular (I'm running it in 1080p/24Hz mode through an HDMI connection).
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I've read articles that said Blu Ray players that are currently out (except for the PS3) are obsolete because of planned changes in the programming (the PS3 is built to accept the upgrade whereas other Blu Ray players are not).
Isn't that why most players have firmware updates that need to be performed? I know my first generation Samsung Blu-Ray BD-p1000 needs a firmware update in order to play some of the newer titles, but I just haven't done it yet.
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I think its sad that the consumers aren't allowed to choose which format will win. Instead you have studios who make the decisions. I really like HDDVD because it doesn't have regional encoding so you can play a disc in your machine manufactured anywhere in the world. HDDVDS are also cheaper to produce and there's no difference between BLU ray and HDDVD, both even use a blue laser. HDDVD players started with their final format meaning that they won't be introducing new HDDVD players that make them obselete later like sony is with the Blu ray technology (except for PS3).

Even before the HDDVD camp started selling players at 150 bucks they were always cheaper than BLu ray players. Last year they were 300-400 while the Blu-ray players were 800-900. The only reason Blu-ray got cheaper was they had to compete. When Blu-ray wins there goes the competeition unless downloading gets more mainstream.

Blu-ray players and HDDVD players are both backwards compatible with DVD's and even upconvert them sometimes making them look better than a standard DVD player. The two new technologies are not compatible with each other.

There are two dual format players the LG Super Blu and Samsung's new model which play both HDDVD and Blu-ray discs but at 700 bucks its cheaper to buy an HDDVD player and a Blu-ray player.
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Someone recently posted a thread that had an article about Warner Brothers (I believe) is switching all their new movie releases to Blu Ray only. When I brought that up at a local big box store, one of the more level headed employees told me that one of the other big production companies also just switched to strictly Blu Ray. So whatever thats worth to you.

Personally I download my movies and connect my TV to laptop through HDMI and watch all my movies in 1080p.
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Isn't that why most players have firmware updates that need to be performed? I know my first generation Samsung Blu-Ray BD-p1000 needs a firmware update in order to play some of the newer titles, but I just haven't done it yet.
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Nearly all current Blu-ray players are obsolete: The Blu-ray standard is still evolving. Most models currently available use the original Profile 1.0 standard, while some newer models use Profile 1.1 (which adds the ability to show picture-in-picture commentaries). Later this year, the first Profile 2.0 players--which add the ability to deliver online special features (BD Live)--will become available. Ironically, both of these are designed to bring the Blu-ray standard in line with HD DVD players, which have long been able to deliver these features.

A couple of the most recent Blu-ray players (the combo players from Samsung and LG) can be updated from Profile 1.0 to 1.1 with a downloadable firmware update. But the PlayStation 3 is, supposedly, the only existing Blu-ray player that will be fully upgradeable to Profile 2.0. So if you don't want your Blu-ray player to be obsolete, the PS3 is your only choice until 2.0 models--such as the Panasonic DMP-BD50--hit later this year.
Perhaps it's not something that can be fixed by a simple firmware update.
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