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Unread 01-16-2013, 11:27 PM   #1
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Gun control from a high school students pov

As many of you know gun control has been a very big topic in the news lately. This idea of gun control has made me realy buged scence the sandy hook shooting. In my opion the descions that obama made just dont feel right to me. He wants to protect the children from violence but what obama is doing is not realy protecting children at all. scence im a student i see many of the problem that should be adresses but are not for example drugs and bullying. i believe that having guns being seen as a evil weapion of the devel is just wrong. So back to this topic drug use by children it seems like its not a big deal most of the time we dont even hear about these things in the news. I know people fron elementary school that have prety much became crack heads then theres bullying wich most people say is the reason why these people go crazy and shoot up a place. instead of going after the cause of the problem the poloticks go after a tool used in it (aka the gun). so right now all this money is being wasted in something that realy doesnt fix the problem. The real solution should be investing in the mental health of the people. there is also very many thing that cause more deaths than guns. Today obama said there was about 900 people kiled scence the sandy hook shooting 900 might sound like a big number but its not there is about 315 million people that live in the us right now more people die in car acidents a year than in shootings. I have a 2 ton jeep that can do just as much damage as any weapion. To me this gun control deal is just to disarm the people so the government has all the power and people are basicly pupits to follow as they are told to. To day i think that our president has abused his power and this might just become the great fall of the united states empire. I feel if all the rights that we take for granted will just become a thing of the past. Many of us have seen it in the middle east on the news the leaders in their govenment say one word make one law and the whole contry will reform and revault to start a revolution. This is all my opion and every one is entitled to their own. If you got any thing out of this i hope it was the words and actions of a single man can change the world.

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Unread 01-16-2013, 11:34 PM   #2
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Unread 01-16-2013, 11:45 PM   #3
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I think you would have more credibility if you spaced your paragraphs and made it a lot easier to read. Just sayin.
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Unread 01-16-2013, 11:54 PM   #4
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GUN CONTROL lock up your damn weapons end of story. My kids will never know how to get into my gun safe. ....sorry I didnt read your page im just tired of seeing it
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I think you would have more credibility if you spaced your paragraphs and made it a lot easier to read. Just sayin.
Sorry about that i was typing on an ipod
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Unread 01-17-2013, 12:11 AM   #6
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GUN CONTROL lock up your damn weapons end of story. My kids will never know how to get into my gun safe. ....sorry I didnt read your page im just tired of seeing it
Thank you for your time serving in the military and i would have to agree with you having your guns put up is an easy way to prevent an incident from happaning
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Unread 01-17-2013, 12:24 AM   #7
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What I was taught by DoD? "Gun control consists of proper sight picture, trigger action, and situational awareness."

Sight control - make sure of your target.
Trigger action - don't yank yourself off target
Situational Awareness - Be aware of anyone with potential intent and ability to take your weapons away from you (any weapon - explosives, firearms, knives, rocks, sharp sticks, ...)
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Unread 01-17-2013, 12:36 AM   #8
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What I was taught by DoD? "Gun control consists of proper sight picture, trigger action, and situational awareness."

Sight control - make sure of your target.
Trigger action - don't yank yourself off target
Situational Awareness - Be aware of anyone with potential intent and ability to take your weapons away from you (any weapon - explosives, firearms, knives, rocks, sharp sticks, ...)
I learned somethings thst very simular in hunters safety

1.treat every firearm like its loaded
2.always point the muzzle in a safe directoin
3.keep your finger off the trigger until your ready to shoot
4.know your target and whats beond it
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Unread 01-17-2013, 12:39 AM   #9
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The following is a summary of the executive orders Obama put into action:
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1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.

2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.

3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.

4. Direct the attorney general to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.

5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.

6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).

9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.

11. Nominate an ATF director.

12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.

13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.

14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

15. Direct the attorney general to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.

18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.

20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.

21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.

22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.

23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental
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Please point out the executive order(s) with which you don't agree. Make sure you support your argument(s) with sound reasoning. There is no minimum or maximum length required for your response - your response will be judged solely on content, form and grammar.

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The following is a summary of the executive orders Obama put into action:

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Please point out the executive order(s) with which you don't agree. Make sure you support your argument(s) with sound reasoning. There is no minimum or maximum length required for your response - your response will be judged solely on content, form and grammar.

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How about I just point out #7, among quite a few other items on there. Some of will not save lives... They are just more bottomless pits of government spending. I'm sure they will find a way to waste $1,000,000 making a 6 minute infomercial that will never be seen by most.

Others did not need EO and would likely have passed Congress with no problem.
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Unread 01-17-2013, 01:33 AM   #11
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The following is a summary of the executive orders Obama put into action:

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Please point out the executive order(s) with which you don't agree. Make sure you support your argument(s) with sound reasoning. There is no minimum or maximum length required for your response - your response will be judged solely on content, form and grammar.

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The sumarys in the post are vary vage not showing all the information. If the information is not there you can not make a sound choices. Another thing like elcorvino said is the spending on an add campain that probly will not seen by many. Also all the executive orders were made up by a bais team that had no influence by the citizens. also 0.00028% died from gun violence since sandy hook.

Heres a question for you, would you rather have 30 rounds or 10 to defend your family?
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This thread doesnt belong here. Take it to PRC.
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I learned somethings thst very simular in hunters safety

1.treat every firearm like its loaded
2.always point the muzzle in a safe directoin
3.keep your finger off the trigger until your ready to shoot
4.know your target and whats beond it
My granddad taught me basic safety rules as well:

1) All assembled firearms are always loaded. Amazing how many people are shot with "unloaded firearms," no?
1) Never point a firearm at anything you are not willing to destroy.
1) Always verify that a firearm is not loaded. If God Himself hands you a firearm and says it's not loaded, you say "Thank you, Sir" while you check for your self. After verifying that it is not loaded, treat it like it is loaded.
1) Maintain all firearms in good working order. Replace any parts showing signs of not working properly
1) The only intrinsically "safe" firearm you will see is one that is torn to bits, with the loose parts in a box. If it's assembled, it can fire.

Why are they all numbered "1"? Because they are all equally important. (Ergo, they may be cited in any order you like - that's just how I learned them.)
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As many of you know gun control has been a very big topic in the news lately. This idea of gun control has made me realy buged scence the sandy hook shooting. In my opion the descions that obama made just dont feel right to me. He wants to protect the children from violence but what obama is doing is not realy protecting children at all. scence im a student i see many of the problem that should be adresses but are not for example drugs and bullying. i believe that having guns being seen as a evil weapion of the devel is just wrong. So back to this topic drug use by children it seems like its not a big deal most of the time we dont even hear about these things in the news. I know people fron elementary school that have prety much became crack heads then theres bullying wich most people say is the reason why these people go crazy and shoot up a place. instead of going after the cause of the problem the poloticks go after a tool used in it (aka the gun). so right now all this money is being wasted in something that realy doesnt fix the problem. The real solution should be investing in the mental health of the people. there is also very many thing that cause more deaths than guns. Today obama said there was about 900 people kiled scence the sandy hook shooting 900 might sound like a big number but its not there is about 315 million people that live in the us right now more people die in car acidents a year than in shootings. I have a 2 ton jeep that can do just as much damage as any weapion. To me this gun control deal is just to disarm the people so the government has all the power and people are basicly pupits to follow as they are told to. To day i think that our president has abused his power and this might just become the great fall of the united states empire. I feel if all the rights that we take for granted will just become a thing of the past. Many of us have seen it in the middle east on the news the leaders in their govenment say one word make one law and the whole contry will reform and revault to start a revolution. This is all my opion and every one is entitled to their own. If you got any thing out of this i hope it was the words and actions of a single man can change the world.
After reading this I am more concerned about the schools teaching students how to write.

Do they still teach language Arts at your school?

Back to the topic: I am on a School Board. Security is handled at a more local level. If you are concerned go to your next school board meeting and bring it up there. If you have ANY concerns take it to your school board.
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