Gatorade and Terrorists....good read, Long

[HeavyMetal]

i have no idea if this is a repost. but dont really care either cuz people who complain about reposts are pretty ridiculous.

a friend forwarded me this mail and i thought it was high quality. its a relatively long read so for all you people who dont care to read more than picture books, your internet browser has conveniently supplied you with a back button at the top of your screen. otherwise, read on. its about that recent thing where some guys were caught with explosives in their drink bottles or whatever that was all about

GATORADE IS NOT THE PROBLEM

Toiletries don't commit acts of terrorism.

Muslims do.

So why can't I take my toothpaste on the plane? How is it that Gatorade is forbidden? Why can't I have a bottle of water?

Because we aren't really fighting a war with terror, we are losing a struggle with political correctness. It is not so much the evil of outsiders, it is the cowardice of Americans.

The cowardice that won't let us call a spade a spade, the makes us all live in an alternate reality, that puts survival secondary to servility. We are fighting World War III with one arm tied behind our back.

Last week was a good example.

A group of two or three dozen fascist Muslims in England and Pakistan plotted to blow up 10 or 12 passenger-laden airliners in transatlantic flight. The purpose was to celebrate and reprise the attacks of September 11. The means was the detonation of explosive liquids disguised as common liquids - like Gatorade or shampoo.

The plot was discovered, followed and - hopefully - foiled by British intelligence with an assist from Americans and Pakistanis. Immediately, new restrictions were put on airline passengers. Because the plotters planned to use liquids, passengers were forbidden to bring liquids onto airplanes.

Not medicines, not crèmes, not drinks, not nothing. Untold hundreds of thousands of airline passengers immediately and indefinitely lost the right to carry liquids or pastes on themselves or in their carry-on luggage.

Which is stupid.

Because Gatorade's not the problem.

Muslims are the problem.

Can we be honest enough to just admit that for a minute? The plotters uncovered in England were all Muslims. They all had Muslim names. They all but one or two were of Pakistani descent. They were motivated by religious bigotry. They wanted to kill because they were Muslim and they wanted to kill the people they wanted to kill because they weren't Muslim.

Yet political correctness forbids us from mentioning that, much less acting upon it.

In fact, on the ABC network news over the weekend, the plotters were called "British Extremists" - as if somehow the fact they were in Great Britain was defining of their extremism. The fact is they were Muslim extremists, but the American media is so in bed with the diversity-training crowd that fact can't be mentioned.

Also on American newscasts over the weekend, the story was told of three men buying thousands of disposable and untraceable cell phones, an activity with possible terrorist linkages. Not surprisingly, very few accounts noted that the men were Muslims with Muslim names.

Political correctness has sanitized this fight to such an extent that we are not allowed to even identify the enemy.

Which is not toothpaste.

It is Islam.

An Islam practiced by tens of millions of people around the world and which repeatedly and consistently puts armies and cells of terrorists in action around the world. No doubt there are peace-loving Muslims, it's just that they have an amazing capacity for keeping a low profile - or demanding that people respect their religion.

Our desire not to offend Muslims and their culture stands great potential to cost American lives. Countless American lives.

Here's what I mean.

Let's lay aside political correctness for a moment and use scientific analysis. Let's use reason and logic for just a minute.

For example: How many terrorist acts have been committed involving liquids carried onto airplanes by passengers?

Answer: Zero.

Second question: How many terrorist acts involving airliners have been committed by Muslims?

Answer: All of them.

Third question: Why are we focused on liquids instead of Muslims?

Answer: Beats me.

Why is it that the protection of our airline industry is focused on products, not people? Why is it that we go to such extreme lengths to screen materials, but purposely avoid screening the people who carry them?

Wouldn't we be safer if we focused our security efforts largely on Muslim passengers? Especially young, male Muslim passengers? Isn't the fact that every single act of airliner terrorism involved a young, male Muslim relevant?

Does it make sense to take away a mother's bottle of Children's Tylenol and a grandmother's bottle of Coke while at the same time purposely not profiling likely terrorists?

Can't we be honest enough to admit that profiling potential terrorists by religion, national origin, gender and age is a good idea? Aren't we bright enough to understand that asking a few extra questions of a young Muslim airline passenger is not the same as pulling over a black man just because he's driving in a "white" neighborhood?

A group of people was arrested last week for plotting a terrorist attack. They were young Muslim men. Just like the group before that and the group before that and the group before that.

And the group before that.

So, naturally, you can't take Chapstick on an airplane.

Toiletries don't commit acts of terrorism.

Muslims do.

Maybe if the government spent less timelooking at your carry-on bag and more time looking at young male Muslim passengers we'd all be a lot safer and a lot less inconvenienced.

This isn't about Gatorade, this is about jihad. It's time to stop focusing on products and start focusing on people.

People who happen to be Muslim.

- by Bob Lonsberry c 2006

[olds442]

wow its sad to say but i couldnt agree more

[Lostj]

Originally Posted by HeavyMetal

Can't we be honest enough to admit that profiling potential terrorists by religion, national origin, gender and age is a good idea? Aren't we bright enough to understand that asking a few extra questions of a young Muslim airline passenger is not the same as pulling over a black man just because he's driving in a "white" neighborhood?

I was thinking that the other day

[grymsr]

Originally Posted by HeavyMetal

i have no idea if this is a repost. but dont really care either cuz people who complain about reposts are pretty ridiculous.

a friend forwarded me this mail and i thought it was high quality. its a relatively long read so for all you people who dont care to read more than picture books, your internet browser has conveniently supplied you with a back button at the top of your screen. otherwise, read on. its about that recent thing where some guys were caught with explosives in their drink bottles or whatever that was all about

GATORADE IS NOT THE PROBLEM

Toiletries don't commit acts of terrorism.

Muslims do.

So why can't I take my toothpaste on the plane? How is it that Gatorade is forbidden? Why can't I have a bottle of water?

Because we aren't really fighting a war with terror, we are losing a struggle with political correctness. It is not so much the evil of outsiders, it is the cowardice of Americans.

The cowardice that won't let us call a spade a spade, the makes us all live in an alternate reality, that puts survival secondary to servility. We are fighting World War III with one arm tied behind our back.

Last week was a good example.

A group of two or three dozen fascist Muslims in England and Pakistan plotted to blow up 10 or 12 passenger-laden airliners in transatlantic flight. The purpose was to celebrate and reprise the attacks of September 11. The means was the detonation of explosive liquids disguised as common liquids - like Gatorade or shampoo.

The plot was discovered, followed and - hopefully - foiled by British intelligence with an assist from Americans and Pakistanis. Immediately, new restrictions were put on airline passengers. Because the plotters planned to use liquids, passengers were forbidden to bring liquids onto airplanes.

Not medicines, not crèmes, not drinks, not nothing. Untold hundreds of thousands of airline passengers immediately and indefinitely lost the right to carry liquids or pastes on themselves or in their carry-on luggage.

Which is stupid.

Because Gatorade's not the problem.

Muslims are the problem.

Can we be honest enough to just admit that for a minute? The plotters uncovered in England were all Muslims. They all had Muslim names. They all but one or two were of Pakistani descent. They were motivated by religious bigotry. They wanted to kill because they were Muslim and they wanted to kill the people they wanted to kill because they weren't Muslim.

Yet political correctness forbids us from mentioning that, much less acting upon it.

In fact, on the ABC network news over the weekend, the plotters were called "British Extremists" - as if somehow the fact they were in Great Britain was defining of their extremism. The fact is they were Muslim extremists, but the American media is so in bed with the diversity-training crowd that fact can't be mentioned.

Also on American newscasts over the weekend, the story was told of three men buying thousands of disposable and untraceable cell phones, an activity with possible terrorist linkages. Not surprisingly, very few accounts noted that the men were Muslims with Muslim names.

Political correctness has sanitized this fight to such an extent that we are not allowed to even identify the enemy.

Which is not toothpaste.

It is Islam.

An Islam practiced by tens of millions of people around the world and which repeatedly and consistently puts armies and cells of terrorists in action around the world. No doubt there are peace-loving Muslims, it's just that they have an amazing capacity for keeping a low profile - or demanding that people respect their religion.

Our desire not to offend Muslims and their culture stands great potential to cost American lives. Countless American lives.

Here's what I mean.

Let's lay aside political correctness for a moment and use scientific analysis. Let's use reason and logic for just a minute.

For example: How many terrorist acts have been committed involving liquids carried onto airplanes by passengers?

Answer: Zero.

Second question: How many terrorist acts involving airliners have been committed by Muslims?

Answer: All of them.

Third question: Why are we focused on liquids instead of Muslims?

Answer: Beats me.

Why is it that the protection of our airline industry is focused on products, not people? Why is it that we go to such extreme lengths to screen materials, but purposely avoid screening the people who carry them?

Wouldn't we be safer if we focused our security efforts largely on Muslim passengers? Especially young, male Muslim passengers? Isn't the fact that every single act of airliner terrorism involved a young, male Muslim relevant?

Does it make sense to take away a mother's bottle of Children's Tylenol and a grandmother's bottle of Coke while at the same time purposely not profiling likely terrorists?

Can't we be honest enough to admit that profiling potential terrorists by religion, national origin, gender and age is a good idea? Aren't we bright enough to understand that asking a few extra questions of a young Muslim airline passenger is not the same as pulling over a black man just because he's driving in a "white" neighborhood?

A group of people was arrested last week for plotting a terrorist attack. They were young Muslim men. Just like the group before that and the group before that and the group before that.

And the group before that.

So, naturally, you can't take Chapstick on an airplane.

Toiletries don't commit acts of terrorism.

Muslims do.

Maybe if the government spent less timelooking at your carry-on bag and more time looking at young male Muslim passengers we'd all be a lot safer and a lot less inconvenienced.

This isn't about Gatorade, this is about jihad. It's time to stop focusing on products and start focusing on people.

People who happen to be Muslim.

- by Bob Lonsberry c 2006

thats all true, but consider, some of the "blonde, blue eyed muslims" are now becoming a threat. these are mostly europeans that have converted to islam. they don't look middle eastern and that makes them harder to spot. there are also the women terrorists to consider. these fanatical females are willing to blow up themselves and their children to get at us. the fact is, we have to be on guard for terrorists that don't look like terrorists. think of it this way. where a bunch of American teenagers are sitting around getting hard-ons thinking about girls (and jeeps), these islamic teenagers are sitting around getting hard-ons thinking about killing Americans. You know how single minded a teenage boy can be about scoring. same thing with the islamic guys.

[tplochar]

While I agree with the main theme of this article (why harass grandmas and children when Muslims are 99% of the terrorists) I think that not taking certain things on airplanes is such a small inconvenience that it's ridiculous to complain about it. I mean we got guys over in Iraq putting their lives on the line and we can't even part with our precious bottled water. Toughen up America, we're at war and everyone is going to have to sacrifice. During WW2 they had to limit food and any items that could be used for the war effort. We complain when we have to check our toiletries. It' just sad.

[JeepFreak91]

yea think 100+ passangers lifes on a plane is worth more than one gatorade bottle

[gatmog]

couldnt be better put..if asians were commiting all the attrocious acts, as an asian american i wouldnt be at alloffended if i was screened a little more throughly than everyone else--its in all fairness--what would be found to be suspicious. the truth is, who makes us nervous when we ride on a plane? muslims. not to be racist, but thats the truth. and screening them a bit more on account of that isnt asking too much.

to show that im an honest american citizen and avoid suspicion? gladly. if anything i would just hate the people responsible for the acts, not the people there to prevent them.

[ChewyXJ]

I've noticed that most terrorists have black hair. I think we should be scrutinizing all black haired people. Only light-haired people should be allowed to carry liquids onto planes.

Just kidding, I've got no problems focusing on a particular group. As a matter of fact, I wish we had invaded Saudi Arabia instead of Iraq. Most of the 9-11 terrorists were Saudi and they have more oil for my Jeep.

[POLBOSS]

Originally Posted by montana xj

I've noticed that most terrorists have black hair. I think we should be scrutinizing all black haired people. Only light-haired people should be allowed to carry liquids onto planes.

Just kidding, I've got no problems focusing on a particular group. As a matter of fact, I wish we had invaded Saudi Arabia instead of Iraq. Most of the 9-11 terrorists were Saudi and they have more oil for my Jeep.

Man, Saudi Arabia can buy a whole army from another country and when that army is all dead, they can buy another whole new one.
Why do you think we don't attack china?
Those countries concentrate all their wealth on being powerful not on the wll being of their people.

[Rob99]

Right Muslims are the only terrorists......cough cough IRA.

[Ubie]

Originally Posted by Rob99

Right Muslims are the only terrorists......cough cough IRA.

You're 100% right! We should put Catholics in high security areas for the protection of everyone! Who cares that it's only a tiny minority of Catholics that participate in bombings in North Ireland. Really for the good of us all each of them everywhere should be under closer scrutiny.


And what about those sneaky US Army dischargees? That McVeigh fellow was a decorated US Army vet! Bronze Star even! And a Catholic too, that's two strikes against him. That's it, former US Army guys, you're now on the 'heightened security risk' list too!

Next we have drunks and Alaskans and people that have firearms in one tidy example: Daniel Lewis. This guy didn't blow up any buildings but he did shoot the Alaskan Oil Line, shutting it down for 2 days and making for the 3rd largest AK oil spill ever. So, drunks, Alaskans and gun owners, step out of line for special screening won't you?


The list goes on and on. Muslims just happen to be the boogie man right now.

[RnEmOvr]

what about few years back when the old american lady was busted w/a 357 mag?

[Nuthin]

While I'm not a fan of the sort of racial profiling that leads police to stop black men in white neighborhoods, I had a thought just now that makes the idea of profiling a little more tolerable.

If we all KNEW that passengers and travellers were carefully and uniformly screened, perhaps the decent, reponsible, well-intentioned members of the affected minority groups (and there are billions of them) could move through the world without fear of the suspicion of their neighbors. That would make it worth it, for me.

[Curtis Doran]

Originally Posted by Nuthin

While I'm not a fan of the sort of racial profiling that leads police to stop black men in white neighborhoods, I had a thought just now that makes the idea of profiling a little more tolerable.

If we all KNEW that passengers and travellers were carefully and uniformly screened, perhaps the decent, reponsible, well-intentioned members of the affected minority groups (and there are billions of them) could move through the world without fear of the suspicion of their neighbors. That would make it worth it, for me.

The key word here is "uniformly". That article is absoloute rubbish. You think the world would be more safe if all we did was look at muslims? That's pretty much all we do these days anyway, and the **** don't stop. You think it makes more sense have a muslim and non muslim line at the airport, that things will go more smoothly then? Discrimination is far from the correct avenue. True muslims do not believe in this "holy war". Jihad is a war with oneself, for some sort of inner peice. Terrorists are acting under the guise that is the msulim holy war against all non-muslims just as terrorists acted through the catholic church for hundreds of years.

[BS87]

It has some good points but it's waaay to biased and full of the bigotry it points out in the muslim community. Yes, many followers of islam do not like the US and many even plot against it. Does that make all people who practice Islam the enemy? No. A black guy stole something from my freind a few years back. Does that mean all blacks steal? No. White people lynched and hung blacks in the past. Does that mean that white people are all evil murderers? No. Why people group specifics into generalities like this is beyond me.