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Unread 01-04-2010, 06:36 PM   #1
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Firewire (FW) 800

I just want to say - Firewire 800 kicks ***. So much better than Firewire 400 or USB2.

I really like having a laptop style SATA drive in a portable Firewire 800 enclosure. Holy christ this thing is fast!!! And portable!!!! Ooooh, la, la!!

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Unread 01-04-2010, 06:56 PM   #2
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Unread 01-04-2010, 07:14 PM   #3
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.... of course fw 800 is faster than fw 400

like usb1 and 2.0 why would they make it slower as tech advance's?


J/k just giving you a hard time WB i love my FW 800 also
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Play with USB 3 at all? It is crazy fast actually in bursts it can outperform most hard drives data transfer rates. It is still very pricey, but as with all tech the price will only drop. But I have to agree, FW 800 is pretty sweet.
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.... of course fw 800 is faster than fw 400

like usb1 and 2.0 why would they make it slower as tech advance's?
I wasn't suggesting I was expecting it would be slower....

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Play with USB 3 at all? It is crazy fast actually in bursts it can outperform most hard drives data transfer rates. It is still very pricey, but as with all tech the price will only drop. But I have to agree, FW 800 is pretty sweet.
Never seen USB3 on anything. But I'm betting FW1600 will be better when it appears (:
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I wasn't suggesting I was expecting it would be slower....

Never seen USB3 on anything. But I'm betting FW1600 will be better when it appears (:
Pshhh, 10Gigabit Ethernet. (or 40, or 100)

Now can I afford? No
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Pshhh, 10Gigabit Ethernet. (or 40, or 100)

Now can I afford? No
Well, I'm talking about being realistic. If you want to have a technofantasy, that's a different thread. If you can't afford it, it may as well not exist.

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No it's not. Light Peak's been demonstrated at 10Gb and is claimed to be capable of 100Gb.
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No it's not. Light Peak's been demonstrated at 10Gb and is claimed to be capable of 100Gb.
Who are you talking to? What is your comment about?
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Wow I'm glad this subject came up ... I'm looking for an external HDD for backup of my laptop and I see a lot of the newer units having Firewire 800 ... does my Dell XPS M1530 laptop support this? I know a little about computers but this isn't one of them ...
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Wow I'm glad this subject came up ... I'm looking for an external HDD for backup of my laptop and I see a lot of the newer units having Firewire 800 ... does my Dell XPS M1530 laptop support this? I know a little about computers but this isn't one of them ...
if it looks like this m1530 then yes - its the port labeled 1394



however, that type of firewire port is an 'unpowered' port so you need to buy an external drive that comes with its own power supply - as opposed to one of the very nifty 'laptop/portable' external drive that just pulls 5v off of the port

and they're not cheap when compared to their usb counterparts

Newegg.com - Verbatim 500GB USB 2.0 / IEEE 1394 External Hard Drive 96638 - External Hard Drives

Newegg.com - Fantom Drives GreenDrive Quad Interface 1TB USB 2.0 / eSATA / Firewire 400/800 External Hard Drive w/NTI SHADOW 4 Backup Software GD1000Q - External Hard Drives
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Wow I'm glad this subject came up ... I'm looking for an external HDD for backup of my laptop and I see a lot of the newer units having Firewire 800 ... does my Dell XPS M1530 laptop support this? I know a little about computers but this isn't one of them ...
You'd have to look at it and see. I dunno much about Dells. I see it comes with "Firewire" but I can't see if it is 400 or 800. My guess is its 400.
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^ all of the 'unpowered' IEEE1394 ports are 400 by design. 800 devices will work but obviously only at 400 speeds. but in my real world experience 400 blows USB 2.0 away in consistent throughput
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my real world experience 400 blows USB 2.0 away in consistent throughput
I agree....and 800 even more so!

Dell guy: problem with buying a "budget laptop" is you get budget components. Firewire 800 is more of a premium component. The hard drive enclosures that have FW 800 typically cost a fair chunk more too, but they're worth it in my opinion, if you're using the drive for backups or other purposes that involve large chunk-sized data transfers (for example, I just used mine to backup about 60GB and it took very little time).

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one of the very nifty 'laptop/portable' external drive that just pulls 5v off of the port
This is exactly right. The thing that makes a portable hard drive so portable is not having to have a power supply or extra cable or whatever - and it's really nice to just slip a small and light drive into your laptop bag.

FWIW, this is the FW 800 one I have:
Oyen Digital: 2.5-inch 1394b FireWire 800, USB, eSATA External Hard Drive Enclosure

It has FW800, eSata, and USB 2.0. It was also $80. You can get a much cheaper one if you get FW400 instead of FW800 (only $50), but even that one is expensive compared to USB2.0 only enclosures. It's just a matter of how long you want to sit there and wait and how often you use it.

But with your laptop, you're stuck with FW400, and since you have the unpowered port, "stuck" even more so ):

But if you're looking for enclosures of any kind - keep in mind that cheaper is not always better!!! The super cheap enclosures use ****ty components and are prone to failure. I have a whole stack of them here. I don't buy them anymore (:
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Who are you talking to? What is your comment about?
He is talking to you and you dont know the future of data transfer. It has nothing to do with firewire or USB
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