[jb4]

Originally Posted by texasdog

I wonder if you can get the boot off by dropping the axle, and getting the hub off some how and so forth. I know that could be difficult without access to the lugnuts - but still - that would be pretty cool.

this is in the thread - first page i think..

How We Beat the Boot

Reprinted without permission from the Thistle, December 8, 1993 [who got
it from some unidentified San Francisco alternative paper]

Parking boots are public property.

The parking-control officers who attach them to your wheels intend for
them to stay there until you've paid off your fines. Removing the boot
without authorization, or damaging it in any way, is a crime.

Nevertheless, in cities like Denver and Boston, where the boot has been
a part of life for years, the contraptions occasionally disappear. In
some cities, more than 10 percent of the boot stock has vanished or been
rendered inoperable.

That came as no surprise to the mechanical experts who examined our
boot. The boot, they say, is nowhere near as tough as it looks. Anyone
with less than $30 worth of basic hand tools and enough dexterity to
screw in a light bulb can probably break the boot's grip on a car wheel
in about ten minutes.

The boot is designed to intimidate, our experts say; its toughest parts
are the ones that would be the most obvious targets for boot-busting
vandals -- the lock mechanism, for example. With a special
tamper-resistant padlock surrounded by a box made of quarter-inch carbon
steel plates, the lock will stand up to just about anything short of a
low-yield nuclear device. So our bootbusters ignored the lock and
looked for other less-obvious places where the boot could be attacked.
It took them no time to discover several major weak points in the boot's
protective armor.

Deflating the tire.

If the boot is going to work properly, it must be properly installed,
and that's not an easy process -- especially in the dark, when you have
a long night of boot-installing ahead. If the installation is even a bit
sloppy (that is, if the jaws that attach the boot to the wheel are a
little bit loose), it's often possible to remove the boot by letting the
air out of the tire and simply sliding the whole thing off.

This is by far the simplest strategy. It doesn't always work --
conscientious installer can prevent it almost every time, and some car
wheels don't leave enough room for the process anyway. But veterans of
boot-happy cities have told us they've removed dozens of boots this way,
quickly, quietly, and easily.

The hubcap plate.

A key element to the boot's effectiveness is its ability to prevent
car-owners from getting access to the lug nuts on the booted wheel. Once
the lug nuts are accessible, the wheel can be removed and replaced with
a spare tire, and the car can be driven away.

If the boot is properly installed, the plate will be tightly secured
over the hubcaps, making it impossible event to imagine loosening the
lug nuts. But the plate is one of the more flimsy parts of the boot;
it's attached by a half-inch swivel pin that is spot-welded to the
frame. As our boot-busting experts explained, spot welds that hold
together two pieces of metal of different thicknesses are inherently
weak. There are several such welds on the boot, and this one is
especially vulnerable.

With a common battery-powered drill and a 15-cent grinding wheel or
"cut-off tool", one of our experts was able to grind away most of the
weld on the pin in about two minutes. With a five-dollar cold chisel and
a standard hammer, he did the same job even faster.

Once the weld is broken, a quick blow with a hammer forced the pin out,
releasing the plate from the boot frame and making it easy to change the
tire and drive away, leaving the old, boot-laden tire behind (or safely
stowed in the trunk as a souvenir).

The jaw-to-frame pins.

The main frame of the boot -- the "arm" -- fit into a pair of metal pins
on the wheel-clamp, or "jaw". The pins are a central element of the
boot's structure. They're also one of its weakest links.

The pins are only about an inch long. when the boot is installed, they
appear to be connected to each other through some sort of thick, central
rod. In fact, they're just stuck into holes drilled in the frame, and
spot-welded at the bottom.

Even when the boot is assembled, there's plenty of free play between the
arm and the pins. A few strong, sharp blows with a hammer on the top of
the pins quickly breaks them free and makes them easy to remove. With
those pins gone, the boot comes apart immediately.

The welds holding the lock-box to the frame. For all the effort that the
bootmakers put into developing an impregnable locking mechanism, it's
amazing how loosely the lock-box is attached to the rest of the boot.
Four flimsy spot-welds hold the entire padlock-and-cover-plate assembly
to the main boot frame. It took an expert just a few seconds to chip
away one of the welds with a chisel and hammer; when one of our spastic,
incompetent, weak-wristed editors tried it on a second weld a few days
later, it took less than a minute.

Once the lock-box is liberated from the frame, the entire boot can be
dismantled and removed quickly with a ratchet and standard (16-inch)
spark-plug socket.

The arm itself.

If all else fails, our experts discovered that they could actually cut
through the tough-looking steel of the main arm with a battery-powered
drill and a cut-off tool. forget the oxyacetylene torches and the nitric
acid -- the boot arm cuts like butter with a cheap hobbyist's tool. By
our calculations, a standard drill-and-cut-off tool set-up can cut
through the main arm in less than ten minutes.

The padlock keys.

When the parking-control officers come to remove a boot, the first thing
they have to do is unlock the padlock. Since the city is buying about
100 of the monsters, it seems highly unlikely that every boot will have
a different key. In other cities, like Denver, a single master key
unlocks them all.

That means, of course, that an anarchist thug with a penchant for
trouble-making (or a wily hustler with an eye for a quick profit) could
easily dismantle and remove the boot from some poor innocent scofflaw's
illegally parked car, take the thing home, bust the lock off and pay a
less-than-scrupulous locksmith to make up a new key -- a key that would
instantly unlock every boot in the city.

Of course, the city can always change all the padlocks on a regular
basis (although they don't come cheap). But if we know this city, the
pirates will soon be making and selling the keys faster than the cops
can replace the locks, forcing the taxpayers to pour ever-increasing
sums of money into a parking-law-enforcement mechanism that is neither
appropriate nor effective for San Francisco.

http://web.mit.edu/minidev/lib/boot

[ArloGuthroJeep]

This'll be interesting

[cheepjeep96]

Subscribed. Just the thread to start my day :lol:

[trailblazer2003]

Originally Posted by texasdog

I wonder if you can get the boot off by dropping the axle, and getting the hub off some how and so forth. I know that could be difficult without access to the lugnuts - but still - that would be pretty cool.

When I worked hospital security, I found the old parking boot that hadn't been used in years. Of course no one had any keys for it anymore. I called on of our security installers who was also the Pres of the local locksmith association. Took him less than 5 minutes to open the lock and get me a new set of keys. I wonder what the legalities of picking the lock of would be in this case. The PD said he couldn't damage the boot. Simply picking said lock, and removing it undamaged would seem to be legal?

[coonash]

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[dmcanally]

What a great freaking story... It is back from 01' though... or am i reading the date wrong?

Anyways, kudos to the victory.

edit: never mind... its from the past few days...

[TJs06TJ]

Thats a damn good read. This guy rocks.

[madrabbitt]

this is awesome... lol

[rustywrangler]

Oh I gotta watch this......

[shunt]

Instant classic.....

[Country Boy]

Simple solution. Take a torch, heat the arms, bend it open, take it off. Then, straighten it again and repaint it. The unit is still serviceable, nothing they can do. Or, just pick the lock and take them off.

[ScotZ]

The kids at MIAMI University in Oxford Ohio were stealing liquid nitrogen and using it somehow to get the boots off. I will see if I can find the article. They finally got caught but it was funny as hell when they were getting away with it.

[RUparrothead]

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[KMcNaught]

Unless I'm wildly delusional and living in a fantasy world, he's already got the boots off. The company came and took them off after he called them.

[jb4]

Originally Posted by KMcNaught

Unless I'm wildly delusional and living in a fantasy world, he's already got the boots off. The company came and took them off after he called them.

they did

the questions are (as far as I can tell)

1. status of the $140 fine
2. legal status of it being filed as 'other theft'
3. HOA ruling towards illegal procedure - from what I read its supposed to be: warning, ticket, boot, tow and the company was just doing: boot, tow