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Old03-04-2008, 09:57 PM #1
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Postemail i got today

I got this e-mail today. I'm sure its been in circulation a bunch. I'm not a big President Bush fan, but
It should make you think a little:

There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January.
In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the
month of January. That's just one American city,
about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq

When some claim that President Bush shouldn't
have started this war, state the following:

FDR (DEMOCRAT) led us into World War II.

Germany never attacked us ; Japan did.
From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost ..
an average of 112,500 per year.

Truman (DEMOCRAT) finished that war and started one in Korea
North Korea never attacked us
From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost ...
an average of 18,334 per year.

John F. Kennedy (DEMOCRAT) started the Vietnam conflict in 1962.
Vietnam never attacked us.

Johnson (DEMOCRAT) turned Vietnam into a quagmire.
From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost ..
an average of 5,800 per year.

Clinton (DEMOCRAT) went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent.
Bosnia never attacked us .
He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three
times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on
multiple occasions.

In the years since terrorists attacked us , President Bush
has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya , Iran , and, North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people. And the Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking.

But Wait, There's more

It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno (DEMOCRAT)
to take the Branch Davidian compound.
That was a 51-day operation..

We've been looking for evidence for chemical weapons
in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton (DEMOCRAT) to find
the Rose Law Firm billing records.

It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the
Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard
than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his
Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.

It took less time to take Iraq than it took
to count the votes in Florida!!!

Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB !
The Military morale is high!

The biased media hopes we are too ignorant
to realize the facts.
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Old03-04-2008, 09:58 PM #2
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part 2

But Wait, There's more!

JOHN GLENN (on the Senate floor - January 26, 2004)

Some people still don't understand why military personnel
do what they do for a living. This exchange between
Senators John Glenn and Senator Howard Metzenbaum
is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty impressive
impromptu speech, but it's also a good example of one
man's explanation of why men and women in the armed
services do what they do for a living.

This IS a typical, though sad, example of what
some who have never served think of the military.

Senator Metzenbaum (speaking to Senator Glenn):
'How can you run for Senate when you've never held a real job?'

Senator Glenn (D-Ohio):
'I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps.
I served through two wars. I flew 149 missions.
My plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire on 12 different
occasions. I was in the space program. It wasn't my
checkbook, Howard; it was my life on the line. It was
not a nine-to-five job, where I took time off to take the
daily cash receipts to the bank.'

'I ask you to go with me .. . as I went the other day...
to a veteran's hospital and look those men ...
with their mangled bodies in the eye, and tell THEM
they didn't hold a job!

You go with me to the Space Program at NASA
and go, as I have gone, to the widows and Orphans
of Ed White, Gus Grissom and Roger Chaffee...
and you look those kids in the eye and tell them
that their DAD'S didn't hold a job.

You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in
Arlington National Cemetery, where I have more friends
buried than I'd like to remember, and you watch
those waving flags.
You stand there, and you think about this nation,
and you have the gall to tell ME that those people didn't have a job ?

What about Metzenbaum?'

For those who don't remember
During W.W.II, Howard Metzenbaum was an attorney
representing the Communist Party in the USA

Now he's a Senator!

If you can read this, thank a teacher.
If you are reading it in English thank a Veteran.
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Old03-04-2008, 10:00 PM #3
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FYI, Iraq never attacked us, nor did Afghanistan.
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I couldn't read it
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There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January.
In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the
month of January. That's just one American city,
about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq
I guess they forgot about the 1000's of civilians killed that month?
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Very nice! I forwarded this to the Dems in my family, I'm sure I'll get hate mail in return
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I guess they forgot about the 1000's of civilians killed that month?
The email talks of the loss of American lives.
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The email talks of the loss of American lives.
The email also talks about the killing that Al-Queda and Hussien perpetrated. It is one sided, skewed statistical garbage.

See, statistics are these magical things that can be twisted to prove anyone's point. I can take statistics gathered from the same sources that the author of the e-mail used and formulate an argument on why heroin should be made legal.
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The email also talks about the killing that Al-Queda and Hussien perpetrated. It is one sided, skewed statistical garbage.

See, statistics are these magical things that can be twisted to prove anyone's point. I can take statistics gathered from the same sources that the author of the e-mail used and formulate an argument on why heroin should be made legal.
I agree, i'm not arguing that at all, just that part he quoted was about American deaths.
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I guess they forgot about the 1000's of civilians killed that month?

That bad up in Detroit, huh? I would have never gussed it.
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Great post BM20. Can't wait to see more asshat responses from the liberals on this site.
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And thats why i think we shouldnt be ******* and pull out of iraq early... also why i would not vote democrat (if i could vote)
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Great post BM20. Can't wait to see more asshat responses from the liberals on this site.
I'm far from a liberal. I like to form my own thoughts and have a tough time believing that people get hard ons for highly skewed statistics that support an invalid point.
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I'm far from a liberal. I like to form my own thoughts and have a tough time believing that people get hard ons for highly skewed statistics that support an invalid point.


What about highly skewed statitics that support a valid point?
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What about highly skewed statitics that support a valid point?
The point, like the statistics, are all relative. Our morals and way of life are relative too and we shouldn't force them on people that want something other than what we have to offer. That whole region is fighting the same fight that they been fighting since the dawn of time. No amount of American blood will prevent that.
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