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Unread 10-16-2013, 04:14 PM   #16
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Not all people who use EBT are low-life scums btw.
I don't think any of us are writing that. There are legitimate needs and then those abusing the system. Among those abusing or milking the system; some are intellectually retarded and incapable of grasping that there is no "free" ride, because fellow Americans are picking-up the tab, while others simply don't care.

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Unread 10-16-2013, 04:16 PM   #17
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I wonder what will become of the "monitoring of purchases" the store said they were doing during the feeding frenzy?
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Unread 10-16-2013, 05:05 PM   #18
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That is one system that just needs to be turned off and rebuilt.
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Unread 10-16-2013, 07:19 PM   #19
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Just like EBT and welfare and food stamps unemployment etc. drug test everyone who applies every 3 months. See how much we save.
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Unread 10-16-2013, 07:46 PM   #20
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Just like EBT and welfare and food stamps unemployment etc. drug test everyone who applies every 3 months. See how much we save.
Screw every 3 months make that random testing. With 12hrs notice so you don't have enough time to get any cleaners that take time to cleanse your system I'm talking about test in Tuesday then a random on Saturday then maybe wait a few weeks and pop again
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Unread 10-16-2013, 08:00 PM   #21
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Just like EBT and welfare and food stamps unemployment etc. drug test everyone who applies every 3 months. See how much we save.
You wouldn't save anything. You'd spend an outrageous amount of money and the people kicked out of the system would wind up in the E.R. where the money really starts to add up.
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Screw every 3 months make that random testing. With 12hrs notice so you don't have enough time to get any cleaners that take time to cleanse your system I'm talking about test in Tuesday then a random on Saturday then maybe wait a few weeks and pop again
They have products that can make your piss clean in 2 hours. 12 hour notice won't do much. They need to just randomly show up at their house with a cup and watch em piss in it so they can't use fake piss or have enough time to drink one of those detox drinks.

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They have products that can make your piss clean in 2 hours. 12 hour notice won't do much. They need to just randomly show up at their house with a cup and watch em piss in it so they can't use fake piss or have enough time to drink one of those detox drinks. sent using the force
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Unread 10-16-2013, 08:20 PM   #24
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They have products that can make your piss clean in 2 hours. 12 hour notice won't do much. They need to just randomly show up at their house with a cup and watch em piss in it so they can't use fake piss or have enough time to drink one of those detox drinks.

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Hair sampling........problem solved.
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Hair sampling........problem solved.
There ya go. I think it stays in your hair for like 90 days I believe? Could be longer, don't remember.

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Unread 10-16-2013, 08:28 PM   #26
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There ya go. I think it stays in your hair for like 90 days I believe? Could be longer, don't remember.

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Years if your hair is long enough. If they decide to try and defeat that test and show up fully shaved and are not either an Olympic caliber swimmer or keep people in a pit and want you to put the lotion in the basket, then I'd take that as an automatic admission of guilt.
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Unread 10-17-2013, 05:00 AM   #27
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Why don't we just put video cameras in the homes of everyone receiving government assistance? Or make them wear tracking collars. If you want to waste time and money, why stop at drug testing?

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Unread 10-17-2013, 05:53 AM   #28
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I agree there are some people that need the help, but when I see people use ebt for food then pull a wad of cash out of their pocket for a case of beer and 2 cartons of cigarettes it bothers me.
Additionally in some places, legitimate child support payments come through EBT.
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Unread 10-17-2013, 10:33 AM   #29
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Why don't we just put video cameras in the homes of everyone receiving government assistance? Or make them wear tracking collars. If you want to waste time and money, leave the system as it is.
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Easy enough problem to solve. If one does not wish to be monitored for appropriate use of our money brokered by the government, then don't apply to receive it, or exit the program if already in it.

The intent of the assistance program was not to have funds traded for narcotics or for a single individual to stand in line at the grocery, sorting through the stack of 30 cards in their purse to find the best few to pay for the three carts of groceries that will be sold in the parking lot at a 100% mark up to the van loads of illegals waiting for them.

Absolutely, testing is not a fix all, but it would help to eliminate funding those who "can't" buy food for their 8 children, but can certainly find the cash to purchase meth, heroin, or crack.

The thought process suggesting that the cost of random testing would eclipse that which is currently hemorrhaging from the system is ludicrous.

For the record, I am absolutely against big government, but I am more outraged by the lackadaisical attitude of those in Washington that our money is theirs to do with what they want as a means of extending their tenure rather than using it for which it was originally intended.
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Unread 10-17-2013, 10:47 AM   #30
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I'd rather see the government spend $50 million in testing and surveillance to save $25 million if it keeps the leaches and abusers off the system.

You can also:

- Slash the entitlement ammount so it does make sense to go get that $10/hr job.
- Not increase the entitlement if you have more kids while on the program.
- If you leave the program, minimum 18 month waiting period to get back on.
- Random financial audits, include registered vehicles and property as well as bank accounts and EBT use history. Entry into the program results in a flagged credit file for all people living at the home, alerts when credit is sought.
- Start charging and sending to prison retailers who aid in abuse of the system. Tack on a consequence of revoking their business lic as well. Random audits/ secret shops for this.
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