So I have the opportunity to leave Chiberia (Chicago) and head to either Phoenix or Denver. Just looking for some opinions on both cities. I will be studying (@ 34 years old) civil engineering at either ASU or CU. Thanks!
Well, I can tell you this... seeing an Illinois plate in Phoenix isn't uncommon. Many of us originally from Illinois moved to Arizona and will never move back. Some like me end up bleeding over into California for a while.
If you can handle 117 degree weather in the summer, and learn to drive with oven mitts, Phoenix is the place for you. Also, prepare to see a lot of people carrying a pistol on their hip if you move to Phoenix.
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I have a buddy here that is from Denver. He says the winters are cold, snowy and in some areas windy. So, if you want different, go to Phoenix. If you want mostly the same as far as weather, Denver is where you should go.
If it were me, and outdoors enthusiast that likes exploring large uninhabited areas in anything four wheel drive. And I like to go target shooting in those places as well as carry just about anywhere I want. So in those two choices, Arizona is where it's at.
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Yes winters can be cold, snowy and windy in Denver. Can also be warm and sunny. It's a great place if you dont mind getting all four seasons. Plenty to do and a short drive into the mountains if thats your thing. I dont live in the city though and dont spend alot of time there so I cant comment a bunch on that.
One thing I like about AZ is even in Phoenix its not a terribly far drive to Flagstaff or some other mountain areas. I'm not a big fan of the desert but those AZ mountain areas are nice. FWIW, if I recall, Flagstaff actually has more snowy days than Denver.
I've never been to Chigaco but either seems like an upgrade to me!
I would say Colorado. And to who ever said Colorado is like Chicago obviously hasnt been here. Its barely windy, we have over 300 days of sunshine (take that "sunshine state") and all 4 four seasons distinctly. The metro area around Denver is great. And I doubt youll be living in Denver and going to CU its about 45 minutes north. I would look at the suburbs north of Denver. Westminster, Arvada, Broomfield, Thornton... etc. Plus you have so much off roading and out door sports about 20-30 minutes away no matter where you are along the metro area. Its a great place to live, and very low crime. The people are awesome here as well. The Metro area is slowing turning back over to new families.
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Boulder all the way. But I also enjoy skiing so that's why I voted for there. I'm used to driving 4 hours now to Wisconsin or Michigan for any decent ski areas. Having been to the Denver area, I was hooked. After I got out of the service I was accepted to the University of Denver. I choose not to go there because my fiance was a student at George Mason at the time and the distance would have killed us. It is slightly a decision that I regret now, only because we are married and stuck in the region.
If you like off-road Jeeping, go to Denver Colorado. On your days off, you can explore the Crested Butte, Ouray, Silverton and Telluride areas. There is nothing that can match Jeepin' in the Rockies. If you like to ski, some of the best snow skiing in America is in Colorado. Yes, it can get cold in the Denver area, but it usually doesn't last too long. Boulder is pretty liberal but CU seems to be an great engineering school. Stay off of the pot and focus on your education...it will pay off in the long run.
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You can off road in Arizona too. Roughly 80% of the state is BLM/open range. I used to go four wheeling when I was in Tucson in open range land. Extra fuel, water and ammunition was what I'd take just in case. One morning I went out to the old Diablo Ranch. It was a 70 mile round trip with no roads.
Last time I was out there, my wife and I went horseback riding at the old Empire Ranch. Lots, and I mean lots, of open terrain.