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Unread 12-20-2012, 01:56 PM   #31
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Chevy guy pulled a gun on the Dodge after he quit dragging him around. Also broke the Chevy tie rods, bent his bumper and flat spotted all his tires. Chevy boy was running his mouth off and got showed up.
Where'd you hear that?

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Unread 12-20-2012, 02:37 PM   #32
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Engine power actually plays pretty much no part in a bumper to bumper pull like this. This may not make sense, but it is only how much power you can put on the ground that matters. I had a single cab 1995 Chevy 1 ton dually with a 350 in it an automatic transmission. One of the weakest duallys on the market. One night we hooked it up bumper to bumper with another guys 1 ton dually Ford Powestroke, extended cab with manual transmission. To my and everyone else's great suprise, I was able to drag the Ford all over the parking lot, despite having significantly less horsepower and torque. I believe the automatic transmission gave me the most advantage.
Actually, engine power plays a huge part in this. You need torque to turn the drive shafts, and you need power to make torque.
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Unread 12-20-2012, 02:58 PM   #33
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If the Dodge was locked -in 4wd, the chevy never had a chance with 1200 lbs siting on the front axle. Plus the Cummins is making torque before you even push the throttle. Te chevy has to get up t 4000 or so rpm's. Put them side by side in gear at the base of a hill and see which one walks up the hill with no input and which one doesn't move.
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Unread 12-20-2012, 03:29 PM   #34
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Just by looking at the vid, it looks like he was in 4wd. He whipped that chevy around like it wasnt even there. Too funny. But as someone said earlier, if the chevy had stepped on it, the result wouldnt have been as bad. I was surprised to see how easy the chevy went over the burm though.
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Unread 12-20-2012, 04:06 PM   #35
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Actually, engine power plays a huge part in this. You need torque to turn the drive shafts, and you need power to make torque.
Nope, of all the other variables, gear ratio, weight, tires, etc, power would play the least factor in a bumper to bumper pull. My 70 horsepower tractor will drag my 300+ horsepower Chevy all over the place.
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Unread 12-20-2012, 04:11 PM   #36
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LMAO!!! Funniest vid I have seen in a long time

Chevy guy deserved it if he was talkin **** haha

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Unread 12-20-2012, 04:25 PM   #37
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Nope, of all the other variables, gear ratio, weight, tires, etc, power would play the least factor in a bumper to bumper pull. My 70 horsepower tractor will drag my 300+ horsepower Chevy all over the place.
OK what ever..
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Unread 12-20-2012, 11:14 PM   #38
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OK what ever..
Um, he's right. To a degree.

Top image below : 1956 Oliver tractor with a 45bhp inline 6 gas engine. No idea on gearing, but it must have been close to 3000:1 final.

Bottom image below : 1981 Chev pickup (close enough on year, can't find a pic of my exact one) with an estimated 265bhp V-8 gas engine. Can't remember exactly, but gearing was about 16:1 (I think).

Biggest problem with trying to compare them is I had around 64 square inches of rubber contacting the ground. The Oliver tractor had around 150. I had around 3500 pounds sitting on those 64 sq in, my neighbor was pushing 5,000 pounds on his.


Needless to say, my neighbor didn't even notice I was back there, let alone trying to pull him. I had to blow the horn for him to even realize he'd forgotten to disconnect the chain before just calmly driving away. Dragging me along without even trying.


It's all about low end torque and the contact patch of your tires (plus a good dose of weight ON those tires). Horsepower without the other two means you're dancing on the end of a cable/strap/chain being dragged around like an inner tube on snow.
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Unread 12-20-2012, 11:23 PM   #39
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Where'd you hear that?
Someone had posted on harlinecrawlers a screenshot of the text conversation between the boy in the Dodge and himself.
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