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Unread 01-24-2013, 04:02 PM   #31
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That sign is not legal in Texas to keep out CHL weapons. Actualy, I have seen a lot of non-compliant signs for businesses. I smile when I read them.

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Unread 01-24-2013, 04:29 PM   #32
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Don't know about any other state laws besides Alabama, but that sign don't mean **** here.
State law says signs like that aren't the law. BUT if they ask you to leave, you must. Just like any other business owner/manager can do.

You never know who has a concealed carry, and I bet you'd thank them if something went down and they acted on it.
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Unread 01-25-2013, 07:04 AM   #33
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Don't know about any other state laws besides Alabama, but that sign don't mean **** here.
State law says signs like that aren't the law. BUT if they ask you to leave, you must. Just like any other business owner/manager can do.

You never know who has a concealed carry, and I bet you'd thank them if something went down and they acted on it.
I don't think those signs are meant to imply anything besides store policy.
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Unread 01-25-2013, 07:30 AM   #34
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I drove past BWW this morning (after I got my liberal Starbucks coffee) and didn't notice a sign by the door. Might be the location.
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Unread 01-25-2013, 08:23 AM   #35
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Don't know about any other state laws besides Alabama, but that sign don't mean **** here.
State law says signs like that aren't the law. BUT if they ask you to leave, you must. Just like any other business owner/manager can do.

You never know who has a concealed carry, and I bet you'd thank them if something went down and they acted on it.
Many state laws, and honestly I'm not sure about Alabama, but you can carry into establishments that serve alcohol, but only if they don't derive more than 50% of their revenue from alcohol sales. Places like BWW or Hooters would be close to that 50%.

I tend to not go to establishments that post those signs if I can avoid it. But when I do, I'll say while I may not have a firearm, I'm not defenseless. As a responsible gun owner, I'm not going to break laws and I'll try to avoid violating store policy, but concealed is concealed AND there are other options for self protection (tasers, knives, and other skills...).

The BWW places here in Huntsville are places I try to avoid anyway. One is a good hike to go to and not on my radar unless I'm on that side of town. The other one, closer to my house, is in a mall that I really don't like anyway. Lots of other wing options in town anyway.
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Unread 01-25-2013, 08:56 AM   #36
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I kinda have the feeling that businesses for which federally guaranteed currency is good enough, should also maintain that federally guaranteed rights are good enough.

Same goes for businesses that insist they're not obligated to support free speech or other freedoms contained in the bill of rights.. yeah, maybe a court won't force them to uphold those rights but if you don't like the spirit of the US, don't do business here. You don't deserve our money if you don't support the rights we rely upon to keep it flowing.
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Unread 01-25-2013, 02:21 PM   #37
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Had somebody telling me in Ohio, there is a data base being built to list all the businesses that arent CCW friendly. Offending businesses are warned that they are going to be put on a list for prohibiting CC, if they continue to refuse CC , they are put on the list for the gun carrying public to look up on line. My understanding is, some places do comply. Didnt catch where to find the list.
I feel like I've heard that also. I'm pretty sure buckeye firearms has something to do with it. If they don't they need to get the ball rolling on it, they're an excellent resource for CCW holding Ohioans.
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Unread 01-25-2013, 02:28 PM   #38
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Many state laws, and honestly I'm not sure about Alabama, but you can carry into establishments that serve alcohol, but only if they don't derive more than 50% of their revenue from alcohol sales. Places like BWW or Hooters would be close to that 50%.
Texas is like this with one caveat. Places like Chilis or some of the BWW have a separate bar. You can carry in, but can't go into the bar area. But there still needs to be a 30.06 or a 51% sign.

But to be honest. If I am going to one of those places, I am probably going to be drinking so I wouldn't have it one me anyhow.
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Unread 01-25-2013, 02:40 PM   #39
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but your CCW says you can't carry in federal places like post offices, banks, etc... Just cause some yahoo puts up a no guns sign in his establishment doesn't mean that you can get in trouble for doing it anyway. The most that could happen is they would ask you to leave and maybe ban you from eating there it something. I don't think you can get in trouble for it.
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Unread 01-25-2013, 02:41 PM   #40
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But I think it's cause they serve alcohol. In TN you cannot consume alcohol and carry, in KY you can, but if there was an incident, the police determine if you're drunk or not.
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Unread 01-26-2013, 12:17 AM   #41
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in KY you can, but if there was an incident, the police determine if you're drunk or not.
Ohio is the same way, which is kind of ridiculous. If you are carrying DO NOT DRINK!
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Unread 01-26-2013, 12:27 AM   #42
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Unread 01-26-2013, 05:06 AM   #43
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but your CCW says you can't carry in federal places like post offices, banks, etc... Just cause some yahoo puts up a no guns sign in his establishment doesn't mean that you can get in trouble for doing it anyway. The most that could happen is they would ask you to leave and maybe ban you from eating there it something. I don't think you can get in trouble for it.
It varries by state, county, city. Some some you can carry in Chilis or BWW, but not in their bar.
Some places you cannot carry if more than 50% revenue is from alcohol, that includes retail stores.
Other places you can't carry in the building if they have a liquor license. So if the local drug store sells beer, don't carry in it.

It requires a lot of homework. Some places the county or city places more restrictions in addition to state and federal.
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Unread 01-26-2013, 08:10 AM   #44
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Florida you can carry into a restaurant but not into a bar or bar area of a restaurant. No schools or federal buildings either.
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Unread 01-26-2013, 10:39 AM   #45
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new hampshire i can carry anywhere aside from schools, banks (i think banks), courts, any federal or state building really.
other than that, anywhere i want that doesnt have an official "no weapons permitted" sign.

i dont think that crap sign BWW's used would fly around here.
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