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post #1 of 8 Old 07-28-2016, 07:37 AM Thread Starter
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Boulder CO, Jeep Offroad training?

Hi, So I've finally bought a Jeep Rubicon Unlimited and love it on the road, but have never done any real 4 wheeling off road. Usually I would just go out and try and figure everything out myself - but my wife would like to do it as well and she likes to be told how and what to do - and I could probably use a little of that myself. Are there any good weekend courses for complete beginners around Boulder Colorado? I've tried googling on this and didn't find much so any advice will be taken on board thankfully.

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post #2 of 8 Old 07-28-2016, 08:25 AM
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Any of the forest service roads near Nederland in the area are pretty easy to learn on, any given weekend there's a bunch of hippies up there in Subarus so if they can figure it out I'm sure you will do just fine
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This is exactly what local jeep clubs are all about.
It looks like the Colorado Forum Section is pretty active here.
Maybe check in with the Colorado Jeep Club and see when their next outing is.


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Thanks, appreciate the info and will follow up on it.... I guess if I used to drive tractors around in the fields this can't be a millon miles away :-)
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post #5 of 8 Old 07-29-2016, 07:51 AM
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Things to learn.

You can't go as far as you think in 4wd. Open diffs get you stuck sooner than later when things get bad you're actually in 2wd and when they get worse you're in 0wd. But you'll likely be stuck close enough to get help and not die in the woods. A locker will let you get even further away from help before you get stuck. 2 lockers will usually let you get REALLY far away from help. Then you'll die in the woods far enough away from civilization that you won't stink up the place.

Good recovery gear will help prevent that^ from happening.

But having at least 1 other rig with you to pull your fat out of the fire is the best course of action. I've been stuck, alone, in the middle of nowhere when my gear failed. Not a good feeling. Worst case the coyotes find you, best case you have 1 heck of a really hard day and lose all your hunting time.

A 10 foot lift will net you exactly 0 inches of extra ground clearance. The only way to get clearance is to go with larger tires. An increase in 3" tire diameter will net you 1.5" ground clearance. You can get bigger tires by either a lift or by cutting/massaging some metal.

The higher you go, the higher your center of balance goes, the more prone to tipping you are.

But... You're not as tippy as you feel. You'll keep all 4 on the ground on sidehills and steep incline/decline way longer than you think you will. If you're looking out your windshield and see blue/brown/blue/brown/blue/brown... you went too far. Don't go as far next time.

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I've wheeled through boulder area before. It's pretty. Remember that water crossings are fun. Water crossings without properly sealed axles results in spending time in a junkyard looking for a new axle.

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Bill Burke's 4-Wheeling America
Grand Junction, Colorado 81501
He teaches all about four wheeling. Based in Colorado. Google it. He takes groups of people out into the wilderness for multiple days to camp and teach skills. Everyone speaks highly of him.

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I am a member of the Trail Ridge Runners in Longmont. Right now most of the group is at all-4-fun in Empire, Check out the website I linked to and if you find it interesting we meet the 2nd Friday of the Month. Unfortunately the motor in my TJ died so I cant go anywhere right now.

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Originally Posted by rubiconrich View Post
Bill Burke's 4-Wheeling America
Grand Junction, Colorado 81501
He teaches all about four wheeling. Based in Colorado. Google it. He takes groups of people out into the wilderness for multiple days to camp and teach skills. Everyone speaks highly of him.
One of my friends did go there, and enjoyed it.
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