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Unread 02-17-2012, 05:21 PM   #16
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ABC Ken's Twitter Page...

https://twitter.com/#!/kenmiguel

At least we know who we are talking too...
OOO He's pretty!

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Ken, listen to these guys. They know what they are talking about. Death wobble is not unique to jeep. And it is not going away. 99 percent of any problems we encounter with our Jeeps can be solved using a simple technique. PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE. You feel a small shimmy? Get it checked out. A strange noise? Investigate a little...But people are so quick to put blame on others. Whether it be a shop or a huge corporation. They got "swindled." Or the company was "dishonest." In reality, That person is a crummy consumer. That person did not do his homework or did not get a second opinion, Or even investigate the problem themselves. I'm no mechanic, but I can look under the hood for a loose piece of hanger metal or plastic that is causing a rattle...

All I'm saying is that you are making a mountain out of a molehill. Death wobble is annoying. But as stated before, anyone with a torque wrench (anyone with a wrench) and a Chiltons manual can fix this problem if they actually took the time to LEARN ABOUT the vehicle they drive. This isn't advanced physics. Its turning a wrench...

Maybe you can get your top notch investigative team to do something useful...maybe look into how I misplace my keys everyday...or why I put 2 socks in the dryer and only one comes out...

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Unread 02-17-2012, 05:23 PM   #17
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Oh la la...he's a cutie pie ...wonder what he's driving??
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Unread 02-17-2012, 06:23 PM   #18
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Oh la la...he's a cutie pie ...wonder what he's driving??
Probably not a GTI.

I used to drive one myself, though. I used to love VWs until they started using the nasty soft-touch coating on just about everything, and forgetting to install lock cylinders in the trunk lock. My wife accidentally opened my Passat's trunk with her Honda Odyssey key: it took thirty seconds before I realized something was very wrong. "Honey, what key did you just use?" ...The question that prompted 3 months of waiting for a new lock cylinder, specifically keyed to my car. I didn't mind, though - I got to drive a *****in' (that's a positive profane remark, not a negative: think something equivalent to 'awesome') loaner Jetta all the while.

Oooo - I'd love to see a new Corrado / Sirocco / Audi Quattro offered up. I need a new 4th car. My daughter gets her mom's in 7 years - gotta plan ahead.

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Unread 02-17-2012, 06:43 PM   #19
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Just a thought.
Why are you bashing the OP about a story on something that we all know is true? DW happens on Jeep. You all act like you are covering up the truth.
I really dont think hes bashing Jeep, just informing the public.
It could be as simple as over inflated tires.
This is the first thread i read on JF today and disapointed by the acts of my fellow Jeepers
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Unread 02-17-2012, 06:46 PM   #20
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Look at the name...Ken ....TV
well Ken. It is "braking" not "breaking".
DW affects any solid axle coil sprung vehicle and even some independent front ends. The harmonic oscillation can be caused by any component in the front suspension and even the tires. Many of us drive lifted Jeeps which drastically increases the likelihood of dw occurring due to the increased angles across the suspension. Most times it is solved by a new or upgraded trackbar. The problem is the other components it destroys in short order. A vehicle(especially a Jeep) is not some magical machine that doesn't require routine maintenance and some sense of how its acting. Pay attention when you're driving and you can feel a shimmy long before dw occurs. THAT should be your que to look for something wrong. There's no sense of responsibility in anybody anymore. Everyone wants to point a finger at someone else. Why don't you do a worthwhile story like the Ford truck sparkplugs that you normally spend 2k$ to change. That article made you sound ignorant and you should do more research before putting something out to the public(typical media mo). Its probably not smart to come to a large forum of Jeep lovers while publicly trashing Jeeps on something you are uneducated on.
Whats your problem? where was the trashing? Your taking DW personally like its your fault
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Whats your problem? where was the trashing? Your taking DW personally like its your fault
A lot of people are personally connected to the auto industry, and to their chosen vehicles. Do we have to use the acronym "DW" to describe this anomaly - as if it's a common event for anyone with a 4X4 vehicle?

How many people here have ever seen video records of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge disaster? Yeah, pretty much everyone with a high school education in the US. That was a resonance problem, too. Perhaps we should start naming this kind of problem a TNB.

Words hurt, and they can be misleading. If you don't believe that, look up the meaning of: "Libel" or "Slander". While you're at it, perhaps try: "Misrepresentation", "Sabotage", "Calumny", "Criminal Defamation", "Villification", "Traducement".

If I were a lawyer, I'd have a field day with these suckers!
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Unread 02-17-2012, 07:53 PM   #23
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I'd venture a guess he drives a Prius or similar soulless enconobox.
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Unread 02-17-2012, 08:04 PM   #24
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Just a thought.
Why are you bashing the OP about a story on something that we all know is true? DW happens on Jeep. You all act like you are covering up the truth.
I really dont think hes bashing Jeep, just informing the public.
It could be as simple as over inflated tires.
This is the first thread i read on JF today and disapointed by the acts of my fellow Jeepers
I'm not bashing anyone to cover up the truth. DW can happen on SFA vehicles, it's a fact. Far too many people are completely disconnected from the act of driving.

If you don't care about what you buy, then you don't care about what you drive. If you don't care about what you drive or buy you don't care about driving. If you don't care about driving how are you supposed to understand in any capacity, what is going on with your vehicle and how it works in the simplest of terms?

We drive SFA coil/leaf sprung Jeeps, not $80k high performance road cars with electronically controlled intelligent suspension. DW is something that is easily avoidable with a bit of knowledge, a wrench, and a five minutes to torque your track bar at every oil change.

Driving then becomes something you just do, rather than something you enjoy doing. Akin to taking out the garbage or emptying the dishwasher. If you're totally disinterested in what you're doing, how are you supposed to do it well, or safely in reasonable manner?

For every $15-30k vehicle that rolls off a lot, you could have something far more fun to drive for comparable or less money. Do you want a lifeless gutless block of metal, or more commonly lately plastic, that goes from point A to point B making noises vaguely resembling something with an engine, or do you want to live a little?

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Just a thought.
Why are you bashing the OP about a story on something that we all know is true? DW happens on Jeep. You all act like you are covering up the truth.
I really dont think hes bashing Jeep, just informing the public.
It could be as simple as over inflated tires.
This is the first thread i read on JF today and disapointed by the acts of my fellow Jeepers
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Whats your problem? where was the trashing? Your taking DW personally like its your fault
No but as dumb as most people are (in general ), they will read this garbage that calls out Jeep, not Dodge, not Ford, Not Chevrolet ifs wobble issues And they will go buy another maker. . And I do have a problem with the media. They aret all leeches looking for blood and drama anyway they can. And they don't care who it affects as long as they get on TV and get their "look at me" fix for the day. I am not a Jeep loyalist, I have a Dodge and a Honda in my driveway as well. I read garbage like that all the time and don't have the ability for the writer to here mydisagreement. Luckily right now I have that chance. Leave it to the leaf Springer to make a comment about dw
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No but as dumb as most west coasters are, they will read this garbage that calls out Jeep, not Dodge, not Ford, Not Chevrolet ifs wobble issues And they will go buy another maker. . And I do have a problem with the media. They aret all leeches looking for blood and drama anyway they can. And they don't care who it affects as long as they get on TV and get their "look at me" fix for the day. I am not a Jeep loyalist, I have a Dodge and a Honda in my driveway as well. I read garbage like that all the time and don't have the ability for the writer to here mydisagreement. Luckily right now I have that chance. Leave it to the leaf Springer to make a comment about dw
Yah, us dumb west coasters don't know our head from our *** when it comes to Jeeps or steering or anything mechanical like... we bow down to the all mighty east coast jeep gods!
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......come on man.
this news article is ron Burgundy quality
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Sorry,"west coasters in general", as in the general public who believe anything they here/read. I had a befriended in college from CA that refused to believe that the "new species of giant catfish" on his screen was a whaleshark. The terminator = governor ......come on man.
this news article is ron Burgundy quality
Pretty wide brush, narrow minded statement covering nearly 50 Million people... "West Coasters in General"... really??? I have all kinds of personal ignorant opinions about people in Virginia and the east coast in general, but you don't see me using them in bash you guys.
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Pretty wide brush, narrow minded statement covering nearly 50 Million people... "West Coasters in General"... really... I have all kinds of ignorant opinions about people in Virginia and the east coast in general, but you don't see me using them in bash you guys.
This is going the wrong direction and its my fault. I shall edit the post. Sorry.
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This is going the wrong direction and its my fault. I shall edit the post. Sorry.
No worries, I'm just being feisty tonight, I'm not really butthurt... and I'm surely not condoning or supporting the news piece, and can admit that we have our fair share of "different folks" in CA... just not all of us!

After Googling the dude, I found posts he was looking for people on unmodified Jeeps trying to cause a stir, and the whole 'Chrysler refused our request for comment..." stuff is just sensationalism, trying to imply that they are covering something up... typical news garbage, which is why I rarely watch any.
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