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Unread 03-04-2014, 11:51 AM   #31
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I agree. I like the car, I just don't think it should be a jeep. A fiat "offroader" would be very cool IMO.
Same thing. Fiat does very well in Europe, the fiat 500 is kinda a cool retro. I wonder how much of this "new" jeep styling will infect the wrangler line.

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Unread 03-04-2014, 12:01 PM   #32
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Same thing. Fiat does very well in Europe, the fiat 500 is kinda a cool retro. I wonder how much of this "new" jeep styling will infect the wrangler line.
If fiat is smart, it shouldn't change too much. Hopefully they at least keep the axles...
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Unread 03-04-2014, 12:03 PM   #33
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Unread 03-04-2014, 04:10 PM   #34
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Thing is though, people have to remember that in order to keep selling vehicles like the Wrangler, they have to have these small vehicles to offset the MPG numbers in order to meet the average numbers that the gov't decided to implement.

In any case, hopefully they offer a manual with the 4WD system on the turbo-4.
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Unread 03-04-2014, 04:53 PM   #35
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Thing is though, people have to remember that in order to keep selling vehicles like the Wrangler, they have to have these small vehicles to offset the MPG numbers in order to meet the average numbers that the gov't decided to implement.

In any case, hopefully they offer a manual with the 4WD system on the turbo-4.
This is exactly it, Jeep isn't trying to cater vehicles like this and the new cherokee to their current customers they are trying to bring in sales of higher gas mileage vehicles so that they will be able to continue to sell Jeeps like the Wrangler.
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Unread 03-04-2014, 05:32 PM   #36
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Thing is though, people have to remember that in order to keep selling vehicles like the Wrangler, they have to have these small vehicles to offset the MPG numbers in order to meet the average numbers that the gov't decided to implement.

In any case, hopefully they offer a manual with the 4WD system on the turbo-4.
and this must be said 1 million times per thread

Jeep has a vehicle for everyone, I'm glad the "diehards" (should really have another name for them) don't run the company or it'd be out of business by now. Jeep will NOT survive on the Wrangler alone.

The Wrangler gives Jeep the legitimacy while Jeep can produce other less intense products to give the average person the capability without the overkill. We don't need solid axles and ladder frames for every model.

The Renegade is a fantastic replacement for the Patriot and Compass, its styled better IMO, better made and I think will be pretty neat with some offroad mods thrown on.
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One of the mopar accessories is a lowering kit. I am sorry that goes against everything Jeep stands for
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Unread 03-05-2014, 04:34 AM   #38
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One of the mopar accessories is a lowering kit. I am sorry that goes against everything Jeep stands for
There are lowering kits for the JK and wk.
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Unread 03-05-2014, 12:06 PM   #39
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There are lowering kits for the JK and wk.
You Just gave me more reason to hate the Jeep I can understand a lowered 2wd wk like a srt8. My next dd will def be a Toyota now
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You Just gave me more reason to hate the Jeep I can understand a lowered 2wd wk like a srt8. My next dd will def be a Toyota now
it's all hopeless
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It looks closer to the XJ than the new Cherokee does. Expand the wheelbase 15" and put solid axles under it with a diesel I would buy one.
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You Just gave me more reason to hate the Jeep I can understand a lowered 2wd wk like a srt8. My next dd will def be a Toyota now
Meh, no worse than square headlights.
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Looks better than I thought it would!

Jeep are doing the right thing, they cannot survive purely on hardcore 4x4 vehicles and this should compete well against other mini crossovers such as the Qashqai.

If Jeep want to survive as a brand, they need to move forward with the other manufacturers. Selling rugged 4x4s to a minority will not go very far, appealing to the masses who want comfort and efficiency will.

Personally, I dislike the new Cherokee but think it will sell well, and I think the Renegade will sell well too IF MARKETED CORRECTLY! I've never seen a Jeep advert in the UK, and I read most magazines and surf the net all day!Although I hear Jeep are shirt sponsor for a big Italian soccer/football team called Juventus so that's another step in the right direction by Fiat at least
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It's on the Jeep web site now and I like it. If I needed a commuter vehicle that I could also run through the snow; I'd consider it. Way better than a Subaru or Rav-4, though the powertain details are light at this time.
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though the powertain details are light at this time.
Base trim level will be the 1.4L turbo from the Dart, behind either a 6-speed manual or a 6-speed DDT. Most will come with the 2.4L/9-speed combo from the Dart and Cherokee. Expect roundly the same HP numbers and city/highway figures in the high 20s/low 30s, comparable to other small crossovers.

Personally, I love it. It's exactly the DD I wanted. It'll carry everything I move on a regular basis, it'll run in any weather, it'll be great on gas, it'll handle rough roads and light trails and, hopefully, it'll be cheap. It's the perfect vehicle to keep miles off my 'real' Jeep.
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