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Unread 07-02-2013, 02:05 PM   #1
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308 ammo question

I have a 308 round with no powder in it. I want to detonate the primer. What is the best way to do this without the gun. Also I don't have a vice.

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You need a way to secure the round, typically in a vice. If you don't have a vice you just need to find a way to hold the round in place so you can strike it.
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You need a way to secure the round, typically in a vice. If you don't have a vice you just need to find a way to hold the round in place so you can strike it.
What kind of force does the primer create. Also, does the slug need to be remove for this process?
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I'd be worried the primer does have enough force to blow back or send projectile.

Primer has plenty of snap

What is it you are trying to accomplish? Might be best to someone with a re-loader to put lead into a spent shell.


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remove bullet. place cartridge in rifle. pull trigger (do this outside).
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remove bullet. place cartridge in rifle. pull trigger (do this outside).
Do you just want to dry fire your rifle? Do you have a local gun store you can just run in and pick up some snap caps?
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First, are you sure there's no powder in it? Don't tell me you tried shaking it and didn't hear anything.
Second, that primer will have enough to launch the lead hard enough to be dangerous.
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Thinking of all the ways this can go badly. There are quite a few.

1st ? Would normaly be how experienced a loader are you,but im guessing negative numbers here.

So lets start with why are you messing with this?

A primer launched bullet can kill you, ask brandon lee. If youre wrong about it having no powder things can get real interesting quickly. Ive been shooting for decades and coming close to my second decade loading. With my gear and my experience, i wouldnt think of blowing a primer with a bullet in the case much less an apparently unknown round.
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as mentioned.

remove bullet. place empty primed cartridge in rifle. fire.

outside, in safe direction.
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MUST BE DONE IN THIS ORDER!!
1. Call 911
2. Hold cartridge with pliers.
3. Strike primer with ball been hammer
4. Wait for ambulance.
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next time you BBQ just drop the shell in the....no,no,no,no just kidding. If not using a rifle, then drill a hole in a 2x4 just large enough for the round to fit. Drill ALL the way through the board. Do not block the open end of the shell. Be positive there is no powder in the shell. Get your redneck neighbor to hit the primer with a nail and hammer. Seriously man, what are you doing? Just get a spent round and remove primer the safe way. If you need a spent round I'll send you one.
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Unread 07-06-2013, 07:13 PM   #12
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This has bad news written all over it. Just leave the stupid human tricks to other people and watch from a safe distance. Do a quick youtube search for someone striking a primer with a hammer. It looks the same, but the difference is: You won't lose a hand or die...
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Bullet puller then run it through a resizing die with a decapping pin. It will push the primer back out. Or just leave the primer in the case but still pull the bullet to verify there is no powder charge. Just by shaking it will not tell you theres powder in it or not.
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I've got a way better idea. Throw the damn thing away. Bury it. Something.

When I was younger I thought I would set a shot shell primer off in a vice (no shot or powder just a empty shell with a live primer). I clamped her down and hit a small screwdriver setting on the primer.

When it went off the primer cup ruptured and shot out of the pocket. Luckily the screwdriver went thru the cup and it ended up on the shaft of the screwdriver. Unluckily tho the pad of my finger was against the shaft of the screwdriver.

Took a good hunk out of my finger and I could just imagine what it would have done if the screwdriver shaft had not captured the cup and it had hit me.

Now......most gun shops sell a kinetic bullet puller that I have used many times to disassemble loaded rounds to check for bullet weight and powder charge. THAT is your best bet to stay out of the hospital.

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