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Unread 08-21-2013, 09:48 AM   #46
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My offroading is limited to the ocean beaches and I went with the Goodyear Fortera SilentArmor. They have good traction on wet pavement (most common where I live) and in the snow and are nice and quiet on the highway.

I had Pirelli Scorpions on my old Durango and they were great in the rain and not so good in the snow.

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Unread 08-21-2013, 10:06 AM   #47
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How are those authorities on ice and in deep snow?
Actually, the last couple winters we've had significant snows and deep snow they're great - they are marked with the mountain snowflake symbol as well as the "M+S" marking.

Ice - w/o studs show me a tire that is great. Driving on ice is more about how you drive because if you don't do it safely it doesn't matter what tire is under the rig.
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Unread 08-21-2013, 11:05 AM   #48
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My experience with the Fortera HL has been so good that I'm about to buy a new set at 50k. The only other tire I'm still considering is the Michelin LTX. Most of my driving is highway and I'm convinced that the Forteras are part of othe reason I'm getting such spooky good MPG (18 overall, 20 on road trips to the mountains).

While I'd prefer a more aggressive M+S, I've had no problems grinding the Forteras through snow and ice on mountain passes. I will concede that they are not the best tire for rain puddles, but the 245/65 is wide enough that its own profile is adding to the flotation problem, IMO. And I LOVE the profile for general highway driving.

Personally I've had it with heavier load-range tires, and will stick with "P" series. IMO you give away too much sidewall "feel" in turns, and you gain a lot of MPG-robbing weight. OTOH, I have to check my tires after every sidewall scuff.
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Unread 08-21-2013, 05:15 PM   #49
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My experience with the Fortera HL has been so good that I'm about to buy a new set at 50k. The only other tire I'm still considering is the Michelin LTX. Most of my driving is highway and I'm convinced that the Forteras are part of othe reason I'm getting such spooky good MPG (18 overall, 20 on road trips to the mountains).

While I'd prefer a more aggressive M+S, I've had no problems grinding the Forteras through snow and ice on mountain passes. I will concede that they are not the best tire for rain puddles, but the 245/65 is wide enough that its own profile is adding to the flotation problem, IMO. And I LOVE the profile for general highway driving.

Personally I've had it with heavier load-range tires, and will stick with "P" series. IMO you give away too much sidewall "feel" in turns, and you gain a lot of MPG-robbing weight. OTOH, I have to check my tires after every sidewall scuff.
The factory GY Fortera HL's were comfortable, OK in rain/light snow, but wore out quickly (40K miles). I'm much happier with the Michelins for the same $$ and they should be good for over 60K miles. See sig below (they are stock size).
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Unread 08-25-2013, 10:22 AM   #50
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I put a set of 255/65/17 General Grabber at2's on my 09 4.7. Stock fortera's were bad in the rain and snow. Generals are night and day from the stock goodyears and awesome in the snow.
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Unread 08-25-2013, 12:34 PM   #51
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245/70-17 grabber at2's here. Really happy so far.
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Unread 08-25-2013, 05:09 PM   #52
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275-65-18 duratracs with 1.25" spacers front and rear. 2" rc lift with pinch weld and rear fender rolled. My rear springs are sagging pretty bad but the fit fine with only some rub on back at full flex. I think once I get an adjustable track bar it won't rub, all I need is my OME springs

Great tires off road and in wet or snowy conditions, on road mine are a bit noisy but not as bad as my mud terrains were. They have about 40% life left on them

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Unread 08-26-2013, 08:11 AM   #53
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I put a set of 255/65/17 General Grabber at2's on my 09 4.7. Stock fortera's were bad in the rain and snow. Generals are night and day from the stock goodyears and awesome in the snow.
Any rubbing with the AT2s in the 255 width? I will need new tires next year and have the AT2s on my old 98 ZJ and am a big fan of them. I could go either 245-70-17 (taller sidewall) or the 255s (wider and just slightly taller sidewall). The Generals on my ZJ are great aired down in fine deep beach sand. They do not dig and you can basically go anywhere you want.
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Unread 08-26-2013, 08:47 AM   #54
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I have 265/70/17 Hankook Dynapro ATM's and I love them. I only have minimal rubbing at full lock with no pinch weld mof but i also have aftermarket rims with a larger offset than stock. I went down to the mud pits in my area and never had a problem with the tires getting me stuck or anything. Little road noise also!
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Unread 08-26-2013, 01:07 PM   #55
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245/70-17 grabber at2's no rub no issues. Speedo only off by 2 mph.
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Unread 08-28-2013, 05:28 AM   #56
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No rubbing at all with 255/65/17. I have had the at2's on for about 10 months now and no rubbing. Buddy of mine put some Bilstein 5100's and Front and Rear srt sway bars so I had him trim the bolt just to give it more room. He checked the inside of the tire and there were no marks.
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Unread 08-28-2013, 09:30 AM   #57
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I have 265/70/17 Hankook Dynapro ATM's and I love them. I only have minimal rubbing at full lock with no pinch weld mof but i also have aftermarket rims with a larger offset than stock. I went down to the mud pits in my area and never had a problem with the tires getting me stuck or anything. Little road noise also!
I have the same tires/size. Haven't put them on. But out of curiosity, what's the backspacing on your rims. I have stock rims with 1 in. Spacers arriving this week.
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The offset on mine is -6 and is 4.51 inches of backspace
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Unread 08-28-2013, 12:35 PM   #59
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Just ordered my 2nd set of Nitto Terra Grapplers, 1st time using Discount Tire Direct.
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Jeepforthewin, -6mm? Offset. Are they Pro Comps? 17 x 8.5?
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