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post #1 of 24 Old 06-16-2013, 04:54 PM Thread Starter
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tuned crd vs 09 hemi

i need a do all daily driver. i need it to tow a 1600lb toy on a 14 foot landscape trailer about once a month. some trips with be about a 2 hour drive other will be 6 to 9 hours. i will also need it to drive everyday. and it will get lifted with 285s how will a crd with a tune and exhaust run against a 09 or 10 hemi with exhaust and intake. my driving is 50/50 city highway and hills i live in south east pa but travel all over p.a. and parts of w.v.


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post #2 of 24 Old 06-16-2013, 05:07 PM
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The diesel will perform better in towing....the issue is getting into the diesel will be more expensive than a HEMI...and at that point you may not get that money back with the diesel....that being said diesel price has fallen vs gas.

Do a GDE tune and you will be getting even more HP/Torque out of the diesel plus better fuel economy numbers.

I am biased.

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post #3 of 24 Old 06-16-2013, 06:25 PM
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yep love my diesel

but just as scootr said, it will cost much more to get into a diesel then a hemi

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post #4 of 24 Old 06-16-2013, 06:27 PM
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My hemi tows great and has never had a problem even towing a two axle uhaul trailer. Smaller trailers with less weight and u forget anything is back there. Diesels require more maintenance and are expensive when something breaks IMO. In CA diesel is more expensive than super but you might make up for that in mpg
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post #5 of 24 Old 06-16-2013, 07:08 PM Thread Starter
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do the 09 -10 hemi`s require super? here in my area of pa diesel is .35 to .40 more then regular gas. I looked around a bit and only found 3 crd`s within 300 miles of my zip. they were priced around $22,500.00 and had 50,000 to 70,000 miles. hemi`s there was 75 and they were priced from $14,000.00 up and started with 30,000 miles. I know mpg`s are gonna suck with the hemi and 285s. im guessing im gonna see around numbers around 10mpg.

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man diesels are way cheaper there lol, they are $25k + here with more miles.


i got my 08 with 90k KMS and i have 132k KMS [80k miles]
only thing that has gone wrong is the glow plug module which is right now, gotta get one from the dealer

other than that its been mint and the tune is amazing

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do the 09 -10 hemi`s require super? here in my area of pa diesel is .35 to .40 more then regular gas. I looked around a bit and only found 3 crd`s within 300 miles of my zip. they were priced around $22,500.00 and had 50,000 to 70,000 miles. hemi`s there was 75 and they were priced from $14,000.00 up and started with 30,000 miles. I know mpg`s are gonna suck with the hemi and 285s. im guessing im gonna see around numbers around 10mpg.
No the require mid grade fuel. You will Probly be looking at more like 12-13 mpg with an 09 due to the Vvt and mds or even more. I get 20 mpg at 55 mph
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I would like to get a crd if I can find a clean low mileage one that has not been smoked in and is not black or white. I am a diesel guy at heart my last truck was a 700+hp cummins. getting outta that and into my wj sucked. that wj don't move... lol

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post #9 of 24 Old 06-16-2013, 07:29 PM
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The crd won't quite get to that simply because of displacement but agree they can be built up very easily. The 07 hemis here go for 17k and the 09 hemis are 21k
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post #10 of 24 Old 06-16-2013, 08:35 PM
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I think you're going to find the CRD owners are going to brag more about their rides-and rightly so. I too am biased, what with owning nothing but diesels (VW, Cummins) the last 8 years. I've only had my 08 CRD for a month and I love it, already have GDE tuned it, replaced the exhaust past the DPF, and will soon eliminate the DPF. I regularly tow a fairly aerodynamic car trailer (probably 3500-4000 lbs) and it's effortless. Mileage has been 23 around town, 26+ on the highway. Diesel here where I get it has been running only .15-.25 more than regular...and in one place I stop a lot, it's cheaper-as in $3.37 last week (really!-Gas Buddy app-zip 78648). Keep looking around for that diesel, there are still some low mileage ones out there and used car lots don't know what they have sometimes-mine had 46K miles and I managed to tell them I'd walk if they wouldn't sell it for under $22, and I don't think there were any other offers in a while on it...after you hang here a while and know what the possible problems are with the CRD's--- the dealer will look at you like they looked at me...."he seems to know more about this car than we do"!

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post #11 of 24 Old 06-16-2013, 09:41 PM
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Damn... Gas in CA is around $4 and diesel is $4.15 and up.
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post #12 of 24 Old 06-17-2013, 06:38 AM
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gas and diesel are $5.50/G or more lol

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post #13 of 24 Old 06-17-2013, 07:03 AM
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Diesel is $3.49 here in the Upstate of SC....

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post #14 of 24 Old 06-17-2013, 07:53 AM
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One thing I've learned with buying a diesel is yes they cost more upfront but then they are worth more when you trade / sell. The CRD is also rare and I get lots of interest from friends and strangers in parking lots who hear the diesel purring along.

One upgrade everyone in a WK should get is the brakes. The stock brakes on these are simply terrible even if you are not towing or hauling. Get the Stillen pad/rotor package and the Jeep will stop like it always should have.

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post #15 of 24 Old 06-17-2013, 07:54 AM
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B5 near my house for $3.52 if you buy a car wash to go with. My CRD with stock tires & GDE Eco tune gets about 27 hwy, 23 city (US gal/mile). that's about $.13/mile on the highway today.

Lil Bro drives a 4.7 V8 WJ Overland. @ $3.33 / gal RUG, 22/18 MPG, he's paying roughly $.15/mile on the highway. That's about what I pay in city driving.

He has about 50 HP more than me, but I have more torque. I expect my engine to go nearly twice as far as his. Yeah, I need 10 quarts of oil per change and he needs 5, but I go twice as far on my oli as he does so it's not that big a difference.

Here's one Big Thing - he can go just about ANYWHERE for service on his Jeep but I had to look around to find a knowledgeable shop that actually has a clue about the CRD engine (they service MB and BMW). So you might want to factor that into your decision on which path to take.

I wouldn't consider anything other than a diesel for myself.

fordt - $3.37 sound GREAT but I'd have to drive to Luling (no offense to anyone living there, but I find it hard to ignore the aroma)
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