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Unread 11-13-2014, 04:48 PM   #1
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Which Tire Size is Optimal?

Vehicle: Jeep Commander
Lift: 2" OME HD
Wheels: JK moab wheels with 1.5" spacers
Tire size options(goodyear duratracs): 245/75; 255/75; 265/70 Will any of these rub at 2/3 turn or full turn? what about at full lock?

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Unread 11-13-2014, 05:36 PM   #2
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Vehicle: Jeep Commander
Lift: 2" OME HD
Wheels: JK moab wheels with 1.5" spacers
Tire size options(goodyear duratracs): 245/75; 255/75; 265/70 Will any of these rub at 2/3 turn or full turn? what about at full lock?
Go with 265/70 Goodyear Authority ATs; load range C.

WalMart - virtually the exact same tire as Duratracs for much less $$.

Simply put they are a great tire and I speak from extensive, varied, hard use out of 'em.

Put them on, see where/if you rub, go from there.
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Go with 265/70 Goodyear Authority ATs; load range C.

WalMart - virtually the exact same tire as Duratracs for much less $$.

Simply put they are a great tire and I speak from extensive, varied, hard use out of 'em.

Put them on, see where/if you rub, go from there.
What makes you say that they are virtually the same as Duratracs? They have a different tread pattern. Great ratings however, I'm not saying they are bad.
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Unread 11-13-2014, 06:02 PM   #4
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http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/...ead.php?t=8393
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Jeep Commanders ranging from the 2" spacer lifts to the 3.5 inch Rock Krawler kit can fit the following tires WITH wheel spacers but will cause minor rubbing: (MINOR TRIMMING OF THE REAR PLASTIC FENDER WELL AND BENDING OVER OF THE PINCH WELD REQUIRED)


255/75R17
265/65R17
265/70R17
Personally I have 255/70r18 (similar to 255/75r17) on 1.5" LIFT on a commander with very minimal rubbing on the pinchweld.

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/tir...0r17-255-75r17

255/75 will be slighly narrower and .5" taller than 265/70r17. I like this size myself.

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285....beat those pinchwelds back and enjoy.
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Go with 265/70 Goodyear Authority ATs; load range C.

WalMart - virtually the exact same tire as Duratracs for much less $$.

Simply put they are a great tire and I speak from extensive, varied, hard use out of 'em.

Put them on, see where/if you rub, go from there.
Dont buy from Walmart. Buy from a tire shop.
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You may want to check these out... in 265/70/17

The new Nitto Grappler "G2"

Guarenteed for 50 or 60k

link is here
http://www.nittotire.com/light-truck...ht-truck-tire/


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285....beat those pinchwelds back and enjoy.
Having a 2" lift ... and the spacer, the spacer will clear the bolt on the width, I think the 285 will not fit unless the lift goes to 3" .. OR .. a different spacer? Maybe a 3/4" would work?

Once the wheel starts moving around a full clock 285 will hit the pinch weld area even with the pinch well mod .. with the 1.5" spacer.

I have a 2" lift, pinch weld mod, 1.25" spacers and am running 265/70/17 .. and they come very close at full travel.

AND .. with 265 you have to lower the rear skid plate (4xgurad) with spacers.
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You can fit them on a 2" lift, there's a few guys running it. I have 1.5" spacers and I have no rub, just had to pound the pinchwelds very flat and I'm not having any rubbing at all
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Dont buy from Walmart. Buy from a tire shop.
Right, and while you're at it, only buy your Jeep parts from Quadratec.

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What makes you say that they are virtually the same as Duratracs? They have a different tread pattern. Great ratings however, I'm not saying they are bad.
Because other than the tread pattern, which is similar (insofar as a hybrid AT/MT mix), everything else about the tire is the same: plies on tread, plies on sidewall, rim protector feature, similar shoulder, snow rated, max load, tire weight, tire dimensions, rim width range, max inflation, tread depth, blacked out one side OWL the other - all of it. I'm tellin ya, it's a good tire. I've dd'd on them for going on 3 years. I've wheeled the piss out of 'em. I've towed considerably on them. Never a problem. There are PLENTY of posts regarding these tires in the wheels&tire section and the ONLY bashing of these are from people who have never run them.

My 2 cents - take it or leave it
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Do they have to be LT tires?
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Unread 11-14-2014, 12:24 PM   #12
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Do they have to be LT tires?
Nope, LT tires are heavier, P rated tires generally ride better/are quieter, and get better mileage.
http://blog.tirerack.com/blog/colint...assenger-tires
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I have taken calls from people that want to use a standard load tire on their truck or sport utility when a higher load range is required. Based on the specs they read, they assumed they would carry the load. That was not the case.

LT (light truck) tires are designed around the same basic rules as commercial tires. They have sufficient reserve capacity factored into the formulas used to designate their max load capacity.

P-metric and Euro metric tires, however, are not designed using the same set of rules. Their sizing system is designed for use on personal use vehicles which are normally less likely to be overloaded compared to a truck or commercial vehicle.

When looking at the max load of P-metric or Euro metric tires being used on light truck type applications (full size van, SUV, pickup truck, minivan, etc) the tire's max load must be reduced by 9%.

It is always best to stay with the vehicle manufacturer's recommended load range even if you don't plan to carry a lot of weight. Our website will filter out the incorrect load range options when you enter your vehicle prior to searching. - See more at: http://blog.tirerack.com/blog/colint....m16TJLMz.dpuf
All this being said it depends on your usage. LT is a heavier duty tire, and if you tow/carry heavy loads/ or play in the rocks then you should consider LT tires.
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Because other than the tread pattern, which is similar (insofar as a hybrid AT/MT mix), everything else about the tire is the same: plies on tread, plies on sidewall, rim protector feature, similar shoulder, snow rated, max load, tire weight, tire dimensions, rim width range, max inflation, tread depth, blacked out one side OWL the other - all of it. I'm tellin ya, it's a good tire. I've dd'd on them for going on 3 years. I've wheeled the piss out of 'em. I've towed considerably on them. Never a problem. There are PLENTY of posts regarding these tires in the wheels&tire section and the ONLY bashing of these are from people who have never run them.

My 2 cents - take it or leave it
Good info, I was only curious why you felt that they were so similar, as clearly Duratracs are very highly regarded around here.
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Good info, I was only curious why you felt that they were so similar, as clearly Duratracs are very highly regarded around here.
Eh the Duratracs are far too overrated. People need to hop off the bandwagon (I was on that bandwagon). They're good tires...but certainly not up to the hype off road (sidewalls are far too thin for the price). The Wrangler Authorities are honestly the same performance and construction wise. If I could do it again and still wanted an AT tire, I would buy the Authorities. The Duratracs are expensive, and we all know people associate more $$ to better quality. Usually the case, but these tires are honestly far too similar. My next tires will be MTR kevlars. Similar price to the Duratracs...far superior off road. Anyone wanna buy my Duratracs?
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Every year the best is different... and currently (Other than the BFG Baja which run about $675 each) the Nitto G2 and the new TOYO R/T are the best AT's out there.

MTR Kevlars are better in mud and sharp rocks as so are several other MT's. They have better side wall protection.

I have a 2" lift, JK wheels, and a 1.5" spacer AND the pinch weld mod. ... I run the 265/70/17 G2's they clear but not by much. I think you need 1 size smaller if no pinch weld mod.

They are LT's but LT's are not needed on a WK.. just a better tire as the LT's have a deeper tread and thicker side wall.
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