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Swirl motor and turbo inlet mod ... where to fit Racor or Provent
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As promised a few pictures of my provent fitted to a UK (RHD) Grand Cherokee, sorry If I gone a bit mad with the pictures, isn't digital great.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2676/4120211504_cdcbc5c661_b.jpg ![]() Provent fitted on bulkhead, be careful when fitting, behind the bulkhead is the air-con blend box, I took the glove box out when drilling holes. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2786/4120268212_6c497edbf1_b.jpg ![]() top view of provent, you can also see the section I cut out of the engine cover to stop the pipe being chaffed http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2745/4119477019_7129c47aa7_b.jpg ![]() side view of vent http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2669/4120259244_acec1226a1_b.jpg ![]() pipes across the engine http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2770/4120258710_04651488be_b.jpg ![]() connection to turbo pipe, I bought some prebent silicon hose and cut shorter to fit http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2666/4120262418_48a51baa3d_b.jpg ![]() cut the original rubber hose and attached new hose http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2665/4119488157_25b403cfb2_b.jpg ![]() prebent silicon hoses routed around turbo pipe, two 90degree bends connected together. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2656/4119487689_bb8ab8e393_b.jpg ![]() Silicon hoses laying across engine. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2609/4119493509_74d9efe007_b.jpg ![]() Silicon hoses laying across engine. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2633/4119494123_c2fe623e98_b.jpg ![]() Silicon hoses laying across engine. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2795/4119435579_a4ff154a03_b.jpg ![]() Drain tube, blocked off with a bolt for now, would like to find a proper valve... hopefully the urls will allow you to see the picture in a larger scale. sorry about the first attempt on page 1, I couldn't remember how to add pictures.
Last edited by Mickey63; 11-20-2009 at 12:18 PM.. Reason: added some url's that should hopefully let you see bigger pictures. |
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thanks for the great pictures Mickey63!
I will pass this along to the 300c CRD forum as well, they may be able to apply your setup to their vehicles.
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2008 WK "S" Limited bright metallic silver, 5 speed W5J400 transmission, June 18/2008 build, 213RE rear differential with 3.73 axle ratio, 245/60R18 Goodyear Fortera tires (stock summer tires), NV245 transfer case, 3.0L CRD. |
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Hertfordshire England UK
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Hi Mickey cheers for the photos i am sure they will help me with my install.I have ordered a Provent from Power utilities today (very helpfull people) and hopefully i can obtain the pipework and clips from work.
I will not install Provent until i cure this power loss problem (see my other thread CRD powerloss between 1500-2000 rpm) just incase it voids the warranty.Many thanks again. |
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Thanking you in advance. |
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I like the idea of making the pipe work around the air intake pipe in alloy or some other metal material, I did think of doing that but suffered with time constraints and finding any off the shelf metal pipe work to fit. Maybe next summer now I have the silicon hoses to use as a template, I’ll find someone to make something……. I bought the hoses from various retailers, some better than other in question of price, stock levels and customer service... From Auto Performance Silicone Hoses good on price but very poor on the second two The straight main hoses are a 16mm (ID) inner diameter The straight reducers from the Provent are 25mm (ID) to 16mm (ID) I would have liked a larger (ID) but these hoses have a very thick wall, I felt restricted to go bigger. Polyester Reinforcement: 3 ply construction up to 48mm bore (4.5mm wall thickness) & 4 ply construction from 51mm bore upwards (5.0mm wall thickness) The temperature range for the hoses are shown below, I hope my intake never gets anywhere near 180C. ![]() Temperature Resistance: -60 C to 180 C max. Suitable for: Water - Air - Coolant - Boost - Small amounts of oil mist. I bought these hoses from Welcome - Hose World Ltd - hose suppliers & distributors in the UK I can't remember the exact size's I used around the Turbo pipe, It was either 16mm (ID) to 16mm (ID) then 16mm (ID) to 22mm (ID) Or it was 16mm (ID) to 19mm (ID) then 19mm (ID) to 25mm (ID) Sorry can’t remember the size of the sensor that plugs into the turbo pipe. As I said in an earlier post, the hoses have been on the Jeep for 6 months and approx 7000 miles, so far showing no signs of any wear and tear and definitely no errors (knock on wood) Good luck. If you do use alloy piping around the turbo intake, let us know how you got on…. Thanks Mick |
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I have been lucky with my CRD, I have moved to Australia 7 months ago and so far its been faultless even with off road driving in sand / desert. But a Provent or similar will keep the intake system nice and clean. I change the oil every 6000 miles now and make sure to idle before shut down after a longer run. I am looking at fitting a Bogaard turbo timer to help with this. Cheers. |
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Hertfordshire England UK
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HiFitted the Provent today which went to plan.The install is almost identical to Mickey 's so thanks Mickey for the photos and links to hose suppliers ect . Test drove and fortunetly no error codes were displayed. |
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As long as you don't restrict the flow, you shouldn't notice any issues. Mickey pointed to a site with silicone hoses, hopefully that is what you used, non-oil resistant hoses have been known to cause problems.
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2008 WK "S" Limited bright metallic silver, 5 speed W5J400 transmission, June 18/2008 build, 213RE rear differential with 3.73 axle ratio, 245/60R18 Goodyear Fortera tires (stock summer tires), NV245 transfer case, 3.0L CRD. |
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Hertfordshire England UK
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Hi
I have used the correct heat rated hoses but non oil rated just for a few days until the correct silicon hoses arrive from Hose World.Once fitted the install will be identicle to Mickeys. |
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The only place they could come up with was nowhere for a provent or racor... How ever i found a place for a provent at the front of the engine bay in my 300c CRD. Just had the swirl port problem touchy little donk. It can be done but the engine cover may not go back on. Mine is working now i should have read the jeep forum earlier i could have done it sooner. From what i have read all turbo diesels should have one. Thanks to every one here for the great info. great stuff. ![]() Cheers |
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Here is some good hose for us guys in the USA.....
High Temperature Fluoroelastomer Hose (Like Viton Hose) - biodiesel safe |
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