Swirl motor and turbo inlet mod ... where to fit Racor or Provent

ianrmz250 · 11-17-2009, 12:06 PM

Hi iam a new member and have just had my swirl motor and modified turbo inlet pipe fitted to my CRD under warranty by local dealer (what a rubbish design ).I am now thinking of fitting either a Racor or Provent CCV filter ,the problem i have is where to mount the CCV filter , on euro GC s we have the brake servo in the place where you left hand drive guys mount yours.It would mean mounting the CCV filter on the opposite side , could anyone tell me if the length of tubing (approx 36 inches) from the cylinder head outlet to CCV and back to turbo inlet would be too long and oil would just collect in these tubes and not in the filter ?.
Does anyone know where i can buy a Racor or Provent in the UK ?.

no-blue-screen · 11-18-2009, 10:05 AM

Welcome to the wonderful CRD world! Merlin would probably be the best person to comment on this and he is over in your neck of the woods. It is preferable to have the shortest amount of hose possible mainly due to freezing of the lines more than anything else....assuming the temps in your area get down low enough to cause concerns. This is a good question on where to mount it and it seems I recall there was a post about this a while back so you might be able to turn something up in a search.

merlinTec · 11-18-2009, 02:45 PM

Hi
I don't know where to mount one as I do think it's a long way to mount it on the other side. Possible make a bracket for the strut mount? E-bay I guess for the provent sorry can't help much but would love to have a go.

suzieque · 11-19-2009, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ianrmz250

Hi iam a new member and have just had my swirl motor and modified turbo inlet pipe fitted to my CRD under warranty by local dealer (what a rubbish design ).I am now thinking of fitting either a Racor or Provent CCV filter ,the problem i have is where to mount the CCV filter , on euro GC s we have the brake servo in the place where you left hand drive guys mount yours.It would mean mounting the CCV filter on the opposite side , could anyone tell me if the length of tubing (approx 36 inches) from the cylinder head outlet to CCV and back to turbo inlet would be too long and oil would just collect in these tubes and not in the filter ?.
Does anyone know where i can buy a Racor or Provent in the UK ?.

can you post a photo of your engine compartment? take 2 photos, one with the engnie cover on and with the engine cover off.

ianrmz250 · 11-19-2009, 10:57 AM

Ok suzieque i will take some photos at the weekend in daylight ( i dont have a garage and it gets dark at 4 pm over here ) .Could you tell me is the Provent that i need the 200 model ? Thanks.

suzieque · 11-19-2009, 12:10 PM

I cannot speak for the provent, I have a racor 3500ccv.

there is a thread here from the UK forums you may want to read

Looking for photo of 300C CRD with engine cover off - Chrysler 300C Forum: 300C & SRT8 Forums

Mickey63 · 11-19-2009, 02:02 PM

I fitted a Provent to my CRD during the summer, at first I fitted a cheap oil catch can, you can see pictures if you search for a Thread "Provent install pics on 07 CRD" it's post 63, unfortunately it was not very successful, didn't catch as much oil as expected.
I then fitted the Provent and am very happy with the results, haven't got any pictures on the camera, it's to cold, damp and dark outside at the moment, if you want I'll take a few shots tomorrow and post them up, that way you'll see the fitting and pipe run on a right hand drive (UK) Jeep.

As to where to buy in the UK, I couldn't really find anyone online, but by word of mouth I found a supplier, spoke to a guy call Mathew ( very, very helpful guy)

Mathew
Power Utilities Group
Telephone +44 (0)1922 720561
Facsimile +44 (0)1922 720461
Visit us at our new website: Filterserve

cost was £75.00 Plus carriage, Plus vat. Total around the £100 if I remember correctly

ianrmz250 · 11-19-2009, 02:04 PM

Thanks for the info this forum is invaluable.If it was'nt for this forum i would not have looked under my engine cover to find oil leaking into the swirl motor ,and had it fixed on warranty saving me £600 .This modified turbo intake should be an official jeep recall.Anyway back to CCV filters it looks to me that i will need to fit a small catch can next to the brake servo and drain it every 2000 miles or so.A Racor or Provent will be too large.

ianrmz250 · 11-19-2009, 02:06 PM

Hi Mickey thanks for the info i will contact Power Utilities.If you could spare a few minutes to take a couple of photos when it is not p**** it down that would be much appriciated.I need to get this done asap as i am creating alot of crankcase gas due to towing alot.

Mickey63 · 11-19-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ianrmz250

Thanks for the info this forum is invaluable.If it was'nt for this forum i would not have looked under my engine cover to find oil leaking into the swirl motor ,and had it fixed on warranty saving me £600 .This modified turbo intake should be an official jeep recall.Anyway back to CCV filters it looks to me that i will need to fit a small catch can next to the brake servo and drain it every 2000 miles or so.A Racor or Provent will be too large.

Ianrmz250, My advice would be not to go down the catch can route, to be brutally honest it just ended up being an expensive mistake. Fit a Provent, it's a million time better.

I fitted the Provent on the passenger side bulkhead and run two Silicon pipes across the engine below the engine cover, at first I was worried about the pipes getting to hot or chaffing, but approx 6 months and about 7000 miles later I've had no issues.
Just had the Jeep serviced last week, the Technician who serviced the Jeep made a point to come out to see me to talk about the Provent, he was impressed and made the point of telling me it's made a big difference to how clean the intake was....
I'll post up a few pictures tomorrow.

if it helps, here's the part number and name

3931070550 MANN HUMMEL PROVENT 200 ASSEMBLY

merlinTec · 11-19-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mickey63

Ianrmz250, My advice would be not to go down the catch can route, to be brutally honest it just ended up being an expensive mistake. Fit a Provent, it's a million time better.

I fitted the Provent on the passenger side bulkhead and run two Silicon pipes across the engine below the engine cover, at first I was worried about the pipes getting to hot or chaffing, but approx 6 months and about 7000 miles later I've had no issues.
Just had the Jeep serviced last week, the Technician who serviced the Jeep made a point to come out to see me to talk about the Provent, he was impressed and made the point of telling me it's made a big difference to how clean the intake was....
I'll post up a few pictures tomorrow.

Nice one, I look forward to it.

**Hussler** · 11-19-2009, 02:47 PM

i envy you diesel ******** haha

ianrmz250 · 11-19-2009, 02:51 PM

Thanks Mickey look forward to seeing the photos so i can do the install the same as you when i get the Provent.

Mickey63 · 11-20-2009, 11:16 AM

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ianrmz250 · 11-20-2009, 11:30 AM

Hi Mickey i have recieved the post with the attachment but only have a single square with a red cross in it .Maybe i dont have the correct softwear on my computer to view the photos , i will try the kids PC to see if that works.

Still will not show photos , i am new to this forum so maybe i am doing something wrong.It shows small white box with red cross.

11-18-2009, 02:45 PM	#3
merlinTec Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: England Posts: 2,944 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	Hi I don't know where to mount one as I do think it's a long way to mount it on the other side. Possible make a bracket for the strut mount? E-bay I guess for the provent sorry can't help much but would love to have a go. __________________ UK Chrysler Jeep Master Tec.