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Unread 06-26-2009, 07:39 AM   #1
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Steering Wheel Clicking - TSB repair, can i do it?

My wife's '05 has a clicking in the steering wheel when you turn it. It exhibits the symptons covered in TSB 1900505.

http://www.wkjeeps.com/tsb/tsb_wk_1900505.pdf

I'm wondering if I can do this myself. I handle pretty much all the maintenance on the car, but not so sure about removing the steering wheel. The dealer wants at least $150 for labor, assuming that is the problem. Knowing them, they'll probably tack on some more for "diagnosis".

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Unread 06-26-2009, 09:43 AM   #2
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Are you comfortable removing an airbag?
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Unread 06-30-2009, 11:51 PM   #3
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I did this repair myself in about 15 minutes. Vey easy and worked like a charm. Key is disconnecting battery and waiting like 15 mins for capicitors to discharge. Then it is easy. Have a Service manual?
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Unread 07-02-2009, 06:32 PM   #4
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Hi Dcaprio,
My wifes 05 Jeep is doing the exact problem. How can I fix it? If you tell us step by step instructions that would be great. which part did you buy?
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Unread 07-02-2009, 07:22 PM   #5
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I have the same problem but can live with it.
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Unread 07-03-2009, 02:53 PM   #6
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To Sammy and others,

I found this repair to be pretty easy for a Jeep repair. I ordered and purchased part #05143321AA from my local dealer. It took a day to come in. This is the SCM Cancel Cam. I spoke to the service manager about how to repalce and he was extremely unhelpful. A nearby tech heard me ask him questions and outside he told me to disconnect the neg batt cable, wait 10-15 mins (FSM says 2 mins I think) and then remove the airbag by removing the two screws behind the steering wheel (behind the horn, from the back). Remove the steering wheel (I used a steering wheel puller, avail for rent from Autozone). He said after that I would be able to figure it out and it was really easy. So I did that, removed the airbag, and then removed the steering wheel. I removed the shroud around the steering column by removing the two? screws under the steering column. It comes off in two pieces, one one top and one on bottom. At that point I kinda pulled out the SCM (Steering control module) and saw the small plastic ring that is the SCM cancel cam. I pulled out the old one which was cracked and slid in the new one. I replaced everything in reverse order, replaced the steering wheel, plugged in the airbag and reconnected the neg battery cable. Everything worked great.

The Cancel Cam is just a small plastic ring. The service manager also said it could also be the clock spring, but that was not the case in my situation.

If you attempt this, just be sure to have the part on hand, make sure the steering wheel is straight and wheels are straight before removing and replacing the steering wheel. I was also very afraid of the airbag deploying so I waited a long time after diconnecting the batt cable and did all the work removing the airbag from underneath the steering wheel just in case it deployed.

If you are not comfortable working on the airbag, I would recommend paying the dealer to do this or try to live with the click. To me the click was just too annoying and I thought I would give it a try to save $150-$200 in labor for a $10?? part. It really was a piece of cake. If you do attempt please be careful and good luck.

If you rig is still under warranty they should do this for free. Mine jsut expired so I did myself.

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Unread 07-04-2009, 02:49 AM   #7
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Hi David,
Thank you for the very usefull info. It is my wifes car and It is not under warranty except the powertrain. I will order the part and try to tackle this. It sounds like a easy thing to do. I will try to take pictures of it so in the future if any of this forum members need to do this fix they will have the info.
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Unread 07-13-2009, 07:55 AM   #8
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Sammy, have you tried it yet? Curious to see how it worked out for ya.
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Unread 07-21-2009, 04:18 AM   #9
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I thought this thread had died out and wasn't following it. Thanks for the instructions dcaprio. I may go ahead and give this a shot.

One question, the TSB says you need a second part #06505656AA, a steering wheel bolt. I assume that can be reused since you didn't mention it.
http://www.wkjeeps.com/tsb/tsb_wk_1900505.pdf
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Unread 07-21-2009, 07:36 PM   #10
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I reused mine, just put some new loctite on it.
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Unread 08-08-2009, 11:39 AM   #11
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Hi guys ,
I did it this last saturday and It was easiyer than I tought it wouldbe . I took pictures and i will post them in 10 minutes...
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Unread 08-08-2009, 01:05 PM   #12
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Here is the instructions with the pictures. what Dcaprio posted earliyer is the way to do it. I took notes and pictures that anybody who wants to tackle this jobmight find it helpful.


Take the Steering Wheel Columm Cover screws out. They are T-15

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This what it would look like after taking the covers off.

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After that Take the 2 10mm bolts which holds the Drivers Airbag.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...eelfix007m.jpg

Pull the airbag out to have enough room to disconnect the white connector on the steering wheel and disconnect the yellow airbag connectors on the air bag. Disconnect the Steering Wheel Radio controls too.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...eelfix008m.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...eelfix010m.jpg

I rent a Steering Wheel Puller from Autozone.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...heelfix011.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...heelfix012.jpg

This what it looks like after pulling th eSteering Wheel out.

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Take the 2 T-10 screws for the headlight stalk and take th e2 T-10 screws for the turns signal stalk and slide them out. After that take the 2 T-20 screws out tha take the whole plastic assembly out.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...eelfix016m.jpg

After that just pop the old csm cancel cam out and pop the new one in.
Then put everthing back together...

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...eelfix017m.jpg
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Unread 08-08-2009, 01:07 PM   #13
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Since i do not have 50 posts It does not show the pictures in my post. Could somebody please quote my post and repost it.
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nice job! thanks for the great pics! I don't know why the pics don't show up automatically. You didn't show a pic of disconnecting the battery, hope you did that.
By the way, a steering wheel puller is not to expensive and comes in handy, I'd say buy one rather than rent.
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Here is the instructions with the pictures. what Dcaprio posted earliyer is the way to do it. I took notes and pictures that anybody who wants to tackle this jobmight find it helpful.


Take the Steering Wheel Columm Cover screws out. They are T-15









This what it would look like after taking the covers off.



After that Take the 2 10mm bolts which holds the Drivers Airbag.



Pull the airbag out to have enough room to disconnect the white connector on the steering wheel and disconnect the yellow airbag connectors on the air bag. Disconnect the Steering Wheel Radio controls too.





I rent a Steering Wheel Puller from Autozone.





This what it looks like after pulling th eSteering Wheel out.







Take the 2 T-10 screws for the headlight stalk and take th e2 T-10 screws for the turns signal stalk and slide them out. After that take the 2 T-20 screws out tha take the whole plastic assembly out.



After that just pop the old csm cancel cam out and pop the new one in.
Then put everthing back together...

Nice wright up.
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