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Unread 12-01-2011, 08:32 AM   #1
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School me on load range E tires

I really like General tires....looking at getting a set of Grabber AT2. Currently the load range E is the only range that is rated for severe snow. Being in the SC and making trips to MI I need a tire that goes in snow.

The tread patterns on the different loads look the same to me......

Also the E tires max tire pressure is higher//80psi...do I still run them at the manufacturers suggested psi?

Is the load range E overkill? Seems like it would be unless you are hauling lots of weight.

Thoughts/opinions.....http://http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=General&tireModel=Grabber+AT+2& sidewall=Outlined%20White%20Letters&partnum=67SR7G RAT2OWLV2&tab=Sizes

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Unread 12-01-2011, 08:47 AM   #2
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This might not be standard for every tire but I came across this when I was researching my Nittos:
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LT tires with a "C" load range have a 6-ply rating. LT tires with a "D" load range have an 8-ply rating.

LT Tires with an "E" load range have a 10-ply rating.

*Indicates Extra Load (XL)
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That's the same info I have found.

I would say a load range "E" would be overkill for the weight and towing capacity of a WK. I most often see load range "E" on bigger, heavier pickups with a big block diesel and/or snow plow set-up, bigger hauling/towing work trucks and the like. Not that you couldn't put them on your GC, but to give a point of reference, my uncle pulls his TJ on a 20ft trailer with a quad cab Chevy 3500 diesel that he runs 10ply load range E tires on. Obviously, this Chevy is a larger, heavier rig than a WK and the truck hauls/pulls much larger loads. I think on a WK these same tires would feel like they were made out of concrete.
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I know that my falken rocky mountains are load range e but ya they are totally overkill
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OK...well the Grabber AT2 is not an option. Need to have tires that are snow approved.
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Unread 12-01-2011, 11:27 AM   #6
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Nothing wrong with running an E rated tire on a vehicle like this. Its only a problem when the owner grossly over inflates the tires because he thinks they're supposed to be run at max pressure.

Per the TRA load vs inflation charts, 35-40 psi is plenty for all of the common sizes we run on our vehicles here. Anything over 40 is overkill for daily driving.

I run mine at 36-38 and bump them up to 42ish for towing. For my tires (245/75/17) they can handle more than my rear GAWR at that PSI.. so if I'm not worried about overloading my axle, I'm not worried about the tires.
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There are a lot of gravel roads where I live and almost every rancher & farmer that live off of a gravel road buy tires based on the number of plys, more the better; guess the gravel just beats up tires.
Everything else is secondary.
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Unread 12-01-2011, 12:05 PM   #8
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OK...well the Grabber AT2 is not an option. Need to have tires that are snow approved.
Take a look at the falken rocky mountains they are great tires and they are m+s as well and very reasonably priced
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I road with E rated BFG's on old WJ. They are very tough tire, I got them after puncturing a few sidewalls offroading I never had that problem again. The downside is a rougher everyday ride.
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OK...well the Grabber AT2 is not an option. Need to have tires that are snow approved.
I assume your lifted with spacers if your going to that size but You could just go 255/70/17 . Not going to be that much difference . i have the Gen at2 on my zj . best tires i've ever had .I have winter only tires on my Wk and the gens beat them hands down on snow and/or ice . now i wish i had bought them for the wk.
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Pro: More heavy duty/durable for the trails or heavier vehicles, slightly better tread life.
Con: Heavier tire, slightly rougher ride, costs a bit more, have a tendency to get out of balance quicker
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We run the "E" tires on our work vans. E-350 Super Duty's with 2 tons of crap in them. I would think if you wheel alot you may want to invest in the E's, they're tuff as hell. Like LJS stated, less chance of puncturing a sidewall. I would have gotten them for the WK but there was a big difference in price and I couldn't justify it. I wouldn't feel safe with anything less on the work truck but, I don't think they're needed for a Jeep.

They certainly couldn't hurt anything though.
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I have the "E" Falken Wildpeaks (rocky mountains, same thing) and have had them through a winter and working on my second. I also have done 2k+ road trips with these tires in snow and they went just fine.

In my opinion, this is a grossly under-rated tire for all the abuse I've put my through they look no worse for wear. I know of at least two other people in my jeep club that run them also and put them through the same abuse.
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You have no need for a set of tires that can support 12000 lbs of weight when inflated to 80 psi. Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor. An awesom A/T tire that also has the mountain snowflake rating. Which means that is some states where actual snow tires are required to be used on some roads, the silent armors are rated the same as those snow tires. You can run them all year long and they carry a 50k treadlife warranty. "E" load range tires ARE NOT bullet proof or puncture proof. For that matter, silent armors have a layer of kevlar in the tread to help absorb impacts over bumps and the sidewalls are constructed stiffer than your standard "P" series tire. Not to mention "E" tires are alot heavier which means it takes more to turn them, killing whatever fuel mileage you had left. Just remember, more is only better in sex and money.
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You have no need for a set of tires that can support 12000 lbs of weight ........ Just remember, more is only better in sex and money.
Well, there ya go.
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