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Unread 04-20-2014, 09:22 AM   #16
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Have you tried engine or transmission mounts... I'd suggest getting a friend to help, you wont need much more than 1000-1200 RPM.... Pop up the hood take off the crappy plastic cover.
Put it into Low Range, then D=drive at tick over first keeping left foot hard on the brake.... see if the engine moves more than a couple of millimetres. Then drop to R=Reverse and check again, repeat this process maybe every 5 seconds - if the engine seems ok - then get your friend to lay next to the Jeep and look for any transmission of T-case movement.

Keep us posted and good luck.



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I hope you are right there '98.

The CLONK and the ride are getting dramatically worse by the mile.

I drove it out of the garage today after they could not diagnose a fault and I can only describe it as feeling unsafe. Wobbling around, clonking and creaking and groaning, like something is about to collapse, but everything is tight as tight.

I've been chatting with the Mighty Kolak about some Bilsteins, but do you all think that this is going to resolve the issue? I'm pissed enough that they also told me the reman rack I bought from Rock Auto two weeks ago has a leaky main seal. Can't even return it as the shipping costs more than the rack!

The whole ordeal is starting to get to me. I love to tinker with the WK. It is my hobby as much as my daily driver, but I'm starting to lose that lovin' feeling.
I've started looking at Mitsubishi Pajero/Shogun - that's how bad this is getting!!!


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Unread 04-20-2014, 11:42 AM   #17
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I haven't tried the engine mount test and that is a good idea. I will try to get a work colleague to help me out tomorrow.

Thanks for the suggestion! Definitely helpful. Cheers!
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Unread 04-20-2014, 11:44 AM   #18
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Oh, thumbs up to Rock Auto. They offered me replacement or refund on the leaking rack with absolutely no quibble. Definitely a recommended supplier.
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Unread 04-21-2014, 04:13 AM   #19
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Oh, thumbs up to Rock Auto. They offered me replacement or refund on the leaking rack with absolutely no quibble. Definitely a recommended supplier.

Remember to keep us posted, I'm just checking back to see how you're getting on.
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Unread 04-22-2014, 10:45 AM   #20
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Hi Penguin,
Yup I will do that, thanks.
I'm going to get the new rack and the Bilsteins installed by an off-road specialist here that knows Jeeps and Land Rovers well. If there's anything not right around that area, they are sure to spot it.
Will keep you informed.
Cheers!
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Unread 04-22-2014, 02:49 PM   #21
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Hi Penguin,
Yup I will do that, thanks.
I'm going to get the new rack and the Bilsteins installed by an off-road specialist here that knows Jeeps and Land Rovers well. If there's anything not right around that area, they are sure to spot it.
Will keep you informed.
Cheers!
Im due new shocks on mine, I'm thinking of KONI as they're adjustable and have a great reputation. The parts place here in the UK give a lifetime warranty on them too
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Unread 04-23-2014, 01:19 PM   #22
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Ah, I didn't notice that you're in the UK. I'm from Glos. Parts are so expensive in the UK and UAE. Shipping from US still comes in cheaper than local suppliers. It's a nightmare!

Good luck with the Konis!
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Unread 04-24-2014, 02:57 AM   #23
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I just fixed front end clonk in my WK. I manned up on some bolts that a few girlymen had "tightened" when they replaced my front lower control arms. Just a thought, if you haven't looked at them yourself. Do it yourself. I learned the annoying way, this time, that I might just be stronger with an 8-10" 3/8" drive than those shop boys were with whatever they were using on the lift. Kindof disappointing. It's why I lift
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Unread 04-24-2014, 11:15 AM   #24
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Haha! Absolute class there Unobtanium!
I'm going to do that tomorrow morning, once I've done my usual 1000 push-ups before breakfast ;-)
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Unread 04-25-2014, 01:30 AM   #25
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Found it!

What a PITA!

3 different shops I have taken this Jeep to and they couldn't find the cause of the noise.
Turned out to be so simple.

I went around with a pry bar this morning and found the front LCA bushing allows forward and backward movement. Looks like the steel tube running through it is missing, so although the shop tightened it up to the point that the cross member is distorted the rubber of course can't hold everything in place.

So, The set of Bilsteins I ordered on the advice of the last garage are not necessary, and although they are going to be awesome, they are a waste of money......as was the steering rack, which I need to get changed again because the first one was faulty. An expensive lesson about using back street garages. Perhaps specialists and dealerships do have a place after all.

Still, at least I'm supporting global economic recovery!!!
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Unread 04-25-2014, 07:22 AM   #26
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Mine was the transmission mount, also check engine mounts
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Unread 04-25-2014, 11:01 PM   #27
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Thanks gotjeepzj,
As I said, I've nailed it down to a bush on the LCA.
Just waiting on Kolak to deliver my Bilsteins and I will get the bush changed when the garage tears the front end down.
Cheers!
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Unread 04-26-2014, 10:31 AM   #28
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I just fixed front end clonk in my WK. I manned up on some bolts that a few girlymen had "tightened" when they replaced my front lower control arms. Just a thought, if you haven't looked at them yourself. Do it yourself. I learned the annoying way, this time, that I might just be stronger with an 8-10" 3/8" drive than those shop boys were with whatever they were using on the lift. Kindof disappointing. It's why I lift
your comment about the shop made me laugh
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Unread 04-29-2014, 01:29 PM   #29
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Just an update - typical Jeep dealership only sells the complete LCA over here, not the bushings by themselves. So, instead of a $20 part, they are trying to sell me a $700 part (over here).
Rockauto to the rescue! New bushings and a couple of other bits are on the way over. In a few days, hopefully the beast will be CLONK free.
When it was having the rack change I also got the guys to do the pinch weld mod while the wheels were off. Now the tyres don't rub on half lock!
Bilsteins hopefully arriving from Kolak at some point soon too, so will get all the changes and realignment done in one job lot.
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Unread 05-01-2014, 03:00 PM   #30
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Sigh

Well, still no Bilsteins. Ordered 11 days ago and only shipped yesterday pm. Waste of money paying for 5 day shipping when the ETA delivery date is May 10. What a joke!
Conversely I ordered the bushings on April 28 from RockAuto and I already received them.
Can't get the new bushings fitted until the shocks arrive. PITA
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