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Unread 11-02-2008, 08:17 AM   #16
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Well,

I am torn here on what to do. All these standards and it would seem pretty straight forward but I am still not sure on any of this. I spent almost $200.00 for this oil change and now I am faced with arguing with Mr Lube. The manager I spoke with is "100 %" sure that this is the correct oil that goes in this truck. He has even called MR Lube Corporate to confirm. I have talked to the dealer and they are clueless. If I bought the truck into there they would just put 0W40 in the truck. no ESP or anything. I have read all of the information on the Delvac 5W40 ESP and it clearly states that it is designed for all diesels with DPF's. As bdsix has mentioned, I dont think it will matter one way or another as I will be changing it in 10,000 KMS anyway. From what I read the 229.51 std is all about the extended oil change interval. I think this is all a pile of $^& in the end because many companies have been running 50,000 Mile + OCI's in large trucks while getting TBO's of well over 1 Million miles. I may on the next oil change goto the "Formula M" if I plan on using the OCI of 20,000 KMS. If not, it will be the Delvac ESP again.

BTW, Mr Lube is a bit of a rip off. They price their deisel oil change packages in groups of 4, 8, 12, 16 L This means that I paid for 12L of Delvac 1 ESP and they wouldn't even give me the 2.5L that was left that I paid for. A pile of BS to me. I won't bring the truck back there again. Maybe I will have to go back to changing it myself.

Now let's start the discussion on finding Low Sulfer Diesel!

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Unread 11-02-2008, 09:18 AM   #17
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if it is clear that you were given mobil 1 delvac esp, and because it is rated for 229.31, I would leave it in the vehicle for a normal oil change (6,250miles/10000kms).

What does YOUR owners manual state?
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Unread 11-02-2008, 12:26 PM   #18
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Now let's start the discussion on finding Low Sulfer Diesel!
That's easy. All on-road diesel in Ontario is low sulfur as it's the law. My best advice for fuel is find a station with good diesel traffic. In town I buy from the station that's used by emergency services and rental agencies otherwise I stick to truck stops.
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Unread 11-02-2008, 03:10 PM   #19
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All on-road diesel is Canada and the US is Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel at this point. I think the change was completed in June of 2006. The US was slightly before or after that, so unless you're going to Mexico it should never be an issue really.
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Unread 11-03-2008, 09:05 AM   #20
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Where is everyone getting 229.31 certification for this oil? I don't see that cert at all....I see 228.31 which is not the correct oil.

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lub..._ESP_5W-40.asp

I stand by my recommendation to change it out....but...its your car.
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Unread 11-03-2008, 06:17 PM   #21
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I buy Mobile 1 ESP 5w-30 at www.avlube.com. I just bought a case of 12 liters (They only come in liters, you will use 9.5 liters) The price was $101.44. It meets the 229.51 spec.

http://www.avlube.com/mo1espfo5wvw.html
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Unread 11-03-2008, 07:31 PM   #22
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I use the Mobil 1 ESP 5w-40, picked it up from a Mercedes Benz dealership, they now use only 5w-40 with these engines apparently. Meets all specs.
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Unread 11-04-2008, 07:48 AM   #23
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In regards to the specified oil. This stuff is slippery. I have a ProVent installed and at the bottom of the drain tube I have an oil rated ball valve installed. It has started to slowly drip. I have used this valve in other uses and never had a problem. No problem with lubricity of this oil. It shows how tightly specked this engine is built to hold back the oil in places and why it needs this oil to run at its peak performance.
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Unread 09-18-2013, 04:39 PM   #24
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Just to try and get the last word here? You guys are confusing yourselves with too many posts on this topic. I just got back from the local trucker's oil supply depot where I bot a 20 quarte pail of full synthetic dpf compliant engine oil for $90. and a made in germany oil filter for $21. I can do an oil change for $66 with the same oil that truckers use in the latest high tech highway tractors. Get with the program.
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Unread 09-18-2013, 04:51 PM   #25
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You guys are confusing yourselves with too many posts on this topic.
This thread has been dormant for nearly 5 years and I don't have a dog in this hunt - but - couldn't help but laugh when I read that line.

Could be said about several topics around here...............lol
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Unread 09-18-2013, 05:18 PM   #26
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Do you mean Deutz Fahr? I have one of those to as well as Allis, IH, Isuzu, Cummins, and Duramax(isuzu) diesels around the farm. My Deutz Allis tractor with the air cooled motor is awesome.
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Unread 09-18-2013, 07:36 PM   #27
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Just to try and get the last word here? You guys are confusing yourselves with too many posts on this topic. I just got back from the local trucker's oil supply depot where I bot a 20 quarte pail of full synthetic dpf compliant engine oil for $90. and a made in germany oil filter for $21. I can do an oil change for $66 with the same oil that truckers use in the latest high tech highway tractors. Get with the program.
You paid $21 for a filter...you paid twice as much as I get them for. And yes, they are made in Germany too.
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You paid $21 for a filter...you paid twice as much as I get them for. And yes, they are made in Germany too.
So where do you get those filters? Seeing as they are such a small cartridge style filter one might expect to pay less instead of more. Good thing I only bot one. After blowing $1500. on my build I gotta keep those maintenance costs down.
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So where do you get those filters? Seeing as they are such a small cartridge style filter one might expect to pay less instead of more. Good thing I only bot one. After blowing $1500. on my build I gotta keep those maintenance costs down.
http://europarts-sd.com/oilfilter-v6...e2007-2009.asp
Oops, made a mistake, they are $6.95
You can get fuel filters here also. A friend of mine was quoted $125 for a fuel filter (Canadian dealer) so we both went in on a 10 PAC. We did the same for oil filters.
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Unread 09-20-2013, 01:37 PM   #30
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Thanks. That is an essential bookmark for us diesel jeepers.
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