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Unread 10-02-2012, 03:02 PM   #1
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Quote for suspension work...

A drove my wife's 2005 GC Limited the other day and noticed it rode like crap.

Took it into a local mechanic and was told the front struts are completely gone and the spring insulators are trashed. Was given a quote of $675 to replace the front struts and insulators and then $280 for the rear shocks (they were OK but may want to do all at the same time).

That's a good chuck of change but I have no idea if that's reasonable or not.
As far as replacement brands, is there anything out there close to or better than OEM for a daily driver? Thanks!

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Unread 10-02-2012, 03:26 PM   #2
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Sounds a bit high to me. Front struts(parts) will run you about $200 a pair for OEM or OEM quality aftermarket units. Rears will only cost about $80. He's hitting you pretty hard with labor unless he quoted you some upgraded Bilsteins or something along those lines. Rears are very easy to install on your own even if you have just average mechanical skills and simple tools and a jack and jack stands. I just replaced all mine(front & rear) and installed a RC 2" spacer lift with my brother in law on his WK in an afternoon in my garage.
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Unread 10-02-2012, 03:27 PM   #3
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I got my Bilsteins shipped for $330, front & rear. Had a shop do the fronts and was charged $60 per strut. Installed the rears myself in 30 minutes. So, $450 total.
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Unread 10-02-2012, 03:36 PM   #4
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As for your questions regarding OEM quality or sligh upgrade. I went will all monroe OEM stuff but Rancho offers the RS5826 which in my opinion is a slight upgrade over stock. The monroe OEM struts can be found for about $80 per side plus shipping if you shop around online a bit and the Rancho's run about $100 a side plus shipping. Rears should be about $40 per side for the OEm Monroe shocks, about $50 per side for Rancho and Bilsteins can be found for about $75 pers side.
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Unread 10-02-2012, 03:55 PM   #5
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These were for KYB shocks/struts. Thanks guys.
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Unread 10-02-2012, 05:26 PM   #6
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Sounds a bit high to me. Front struts(parts) will run you about $200 a pair for OEM or OEM quality aftermarket units. Rears will only cost about $80. He's hitting you pretty hard with labor unless he quoted you some upgraded Bilsteins or something along those lines. Rears are very easy to install on your own even if you have just average mechanical skills and simple tools and a jack and jack stands. I just replaced all mine(front & rear) and installed a RC 2" spacer lift with my brother in law in an afternoon in my garage.
Sound pretty normal for a shop.

They have to mark up the shocks,yes 4 shocks on a WK, to make money to pay bills.Then yes you got to pay labor and that is 1.5 hours plus .3 hours(x2) for the fronts and the extra labor to disassemble the front coilovers and re-assemble them so 2.1 hours total for the front.The labor for the rear .8 hours.Then you get to pay tax also and the hourly labor rate will vary on what part of the country your in.
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Unread 10-02-2012, 06:21 PM   #7
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Sound pretty normal for a shop.

They have to mark up the shocks,yes 4 shocks on a WK, to make money to pay bills.Then yes you got to pay labor and that is 1.5 hours plus .3 hours(x2) for the fronts and the extra labor to disassemble the front coilovers and re-assemble them so 2.1 hours total for the front.The labor for the rear .8 hours.Then you get to pay tax also and the hourly labor rate will vary on what part of the country your in.
Got the breakdown. They are charging me $176 each for the struts , 3 hours to replace those and the "spring isolators". $106 each for the rear shocks , .8 hours for those. $85 hr rate.
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Unread 10-02-2012, 06:41 PM   #8
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Got the breakdown. They are charging me $176 each for the struts , 3 hours to replace those and the "spring isolators". $106 each for the rear shocks , .8 hours for those. $85 hr rate.
Dang 3 hours,wish I'd get paid 3 hours to change the front shocks on a WK,there a pain in the rear compared to most others that pay twice as much and take half the time.


I'm not sure what other shops do but the one I work at has a huge markup for aftermarket parts like KYB but is strictly limited to a 15% markup on dealer(OEM) parts.The typical shop markup,any shop, is anywhere from 100%-150% depending on item and why they can offer discounts and coupons.
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Unread 10-02-2012, 06:47 PM   #9
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Sound pretty normal for a shop.

They have to mark up the shocks,yes 4 shocks on a WK, to make money to pay bills.Then yes you got to pay labor and that is 1.5 hours plus .3 hours(x2) for the fronts and the extra labor to disassemble the front coilovers and re-assemble them so 2.1 hours total for the front.The labor for the rear .8 hours.Then you get to pay tax also and the hourly labor rate will vary on what part of the country your in.
Hey, I am all for capitalism and would expect a shop to male a profit but the prices he was quoted were more than just mere profit, it looks like a pretty greedy quote to me.
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Unread 10-02-2012, 06:48 PM   #10
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Dang 3 hours,wish I'd get paid 3 hours to change the front shocks on a WK,there a pain in the rear compared to most others that pay twice as much and take half the time.


I'm not sure what other shops do but the one I work at has a huge markup for aftermarket parts like KYB but is strictly limited to a 15% markup on dealer(OEM) parts.The typical shop markup,any shop, is anywhere from 100%-150% depending on item and why they can offer discounts and coupons.
....like I was saying, glad to see you even agree the quote looks high.
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Unread 10-02-2012, 07:47 PM   #11
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Hey, I am all for capitalism and would expect a shop to male a profit but the prices he was quoted were more than just mere profit, it looks like a pretty greedy quote to me.
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....like I was saying, glad to see you even agree the quote looks high.
Sorry but I don't really pay all that much attention to prices.I just do the work so all I care about,and really look at, is the hours listed for the job because that is my pay check.
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Unread 10-02-2012, 09:47 PM   #12
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Just as a reference, I live in MA so stuff is kind of $$ but I went to a customs shop near by and their regular rate is $89/hour. It took them about a day and a half to instal my Daystar 2" Lift, and new bilstein shocks, (front and rear.) so I'm assuming they worked for probably like 9-11 hours. That's in the ballpark of $1,000. Now I know the owner so I got it for about a third of that but I just wanted to give everyone a little view from my standpoint. Good luck with everything I'm sure it'll workout!
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Unread 10-02-2012, 10:43 PM   #13
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Just as a reference, I live in MA so stuff is kind of $$ but I went to a customs shop near by and their regular rate is $89/hour. It took them about a day and a half to instal my Daystar 2" Lift, and new bilstein shocks, (front and rear.) so I'm assuming they worked for probably like 9-11 hours. That's in the ballpark of $1,000. Now I know the owner so I got it for about a third of that but I just wanted to give everyone a little view from my standpoint. Good luck with everything I'm sure it'll workout!
That's about a 3 hour job,3.5 hour job with alignment.
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Unread 10-02-2012, 11:06 PM   #14
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That's about a 3 hour job,3.5 hour job with alignment.
They said they had never done anything like this before and only had one guy on it. Also got four tires mounted and balanced. They said something about everything being rusty, especially the bolts, which some of them they had to rethread. Either way I only paid around 300 so I was fine with it.
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Unread 10-03-2012, 12:47 PM   #15
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That's a good chuck of change but I have no idea if that's reasonable or not.
As far as replacement brands, is there anything out there close to or better than OEM for a daily driver? Thanks!
I'd go with Bilsteins & Moog isolators if it were me. I'd buy them online and have someone install them if you can't do it yourself.

As far as price to install, it doesn't matter what anyone on this board thinks. If you have to pay someone to do it then you have to pay what they charge. Get 3 quotes and compare. Possibly negotiate the price but I doubt you'll have much success. Good luck.
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