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Unread 06-10-2015, 05:24 AM   #1
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P73 Recall Experience

So I know some people are worried about getting their vehicle in for the update but I have had a good experience. The background was that my vehicle had the N23 from the dealer before I bought it. The 4-lo worked fine all winter but the past two weeks I had a flickering service 4wd system message on startup but would the go away... Well one day it decided to stay on I decided to bring it in to find out about the possible cause and after the update it works! 3 days into it and I have not had any further issues. So if you are on the edge of getting the update you should do it, it may fix your s4wds message too!

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Unread 06-10-2015, 02:29 PM   #2
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Not in my case. I had the N23 done in Sept '13 and that lasted till Nov '14. Then got the P73 done but that only lasted to last weekend so I have to take it in next week to see if it needs a new actuator.
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Unread 06-12-2015, 06:28 AM   #3
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Let me know what happens, so far so good
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Unread 06-16-2015, 09:38 AM   #4
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Unread 06-16-2015, 10:04 AM   #5
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Has anyone besides myself opted to not ever get any of the recall updates done?
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Unread 06-16-2015, 02:32 PM   #6
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So I know some people are worried about getting their vehicle in for the update but I have had a good experience. The background was that my vehicle had the N23 from the dealer before I bought it. The 4-lo worked fine all winter but the past two weeks I had a flickering service 4wd system message on startup but would the go away... Well one day it decided to stay on I decided to bring it in to find out about the possible cause and after the update it works! 3 days into it and I have not had any further issues. So if you are on the edge of getting the update you should do it, it may fix your s4wds message too!
northerngood,

Happy to hear the update resolved your issue!
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Unread 06-16-2015, 02:32 PM   #7
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Not in my case. I had the N23 done in Sept '13 and that lasted till Nov '14. Then got the P73 done but that only lasted to last weekend so I have to take it in next week to see if it needs a new actuator.
LouC,

Please keep us updated on the dealerís diagnosis.

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Unread 06-16-2015, 03:35 PM   #8
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Has anyone besides myself opted to not ever get any of the recall updates done?
I, for one, haven't had any of it done and don't ever plan to. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. In the case of N23, "if it ain't broke, we'll break it for you, and then charge you to fix it in a year or so." After over 2 years of dealer/manufacturer denial that they caused the problems, why would anyone EVER want to put themselves through the BS so many have had to endure. If in doubt, just take a week to read the currently 313 pages of problems fellow forum members have put up with......and that's just forum members.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f777/...4-low-1561787/

How many "non forum" folks do you think have also had to put up with the dealer/manufacturer denials, lies and pleas of ignorance, plus those that have been charged outrageous prices to have fixed a problem that the dealer/manufacturer caused. Now the supposed "final fix" to this debacle is the P73, "Customer Satisfaction Notice". They don't even have the huevos to call it a fix of their 2 years worth of screw ups. They're just "being nice" to the customers because soooo many Jeep owners have had problems with their 4WD low, and they feel sorry for us. How stupid do they think we are. IMO, there should have been a class action suit on this a long time ago.

Off the soap box. I won't go near a stealer except for parts I can't get anywhere else, and I have never had any problems, other than fair wear and tear items, with my Jeep. The $$$ I've saved by not going to them, with their outrageous prices, went to mods. that, IMO, has made my Jeep a bunch better (and reliable) than it was stock. Just my two cents.
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Unread 06-16-2015, 07:21 PM   #9
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Has anyone besides myself opted to not ever get any of the recall updates done?
I have opted out
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Unread 06-17-2015, 01:11 AM   #10
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I stayed away from this recall and others because I don't have a remote starter and I do use my parking brake (and I don't trust FCA). This n23 fiasco was embarrassing for the Jeep brand, but anyways.
A friend had his n23 done and of course, his 4lo got screwed, the n23 updates didn't fix anything even after taking it to other dealers and applying them again and again. The fuse trick worked for a while (jeeple >> Jeep) but eventually stopped working. He got pretty happy when he saw the p73 update so he took it to a dealer with FCA involved and they applied it, and cleared the codes after with the n23 final code clearing procedure. It worked for a while, and a couple days later, it randomly entered into 4lo by itself and refused to get out of that state.
So beware, this fiasco is still going on...
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Unread 06-17-2015, 07:49 AM   #11
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I'm totally in the minority, because I was probably the first in my city to get the N23 recall done. It immediately had issues, but the dealer was able to fix it within a couple of days after reflashing, etc. After that, I've had no problems with my 4LO. That being said, there is absolutely NO WAY I'll be going back to get any further software patches done after the experiences I've read both here and on other forums (which can only be described as infuriating). As an attorney, I've often thought about bringing a class action on behalf of us, but free time has never become available to allow such a pursuit.
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Unread 06-18-2015, 09:52 AM   #12
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Has anyone besides myself opted to not ever get any of the recall updates done?
I have not, nor will I ever, EVER, let FC purposely destroy the 4WD function of my Grand Cherokee... So they can then tell me it's not related to their mistake, belittle me for having superior knowledge, then charge me $1500+, then can't repair their problem they caused.

The only reason I even bought my CRD was because it was a pre "virus" QDII.

I would set it on fire, and collect the insurance money and move on to another brand, long before I would deal with the blatant lies and disrespect that FC has forced on its loyal customers....

I have a very dangerous stalling problem, and am terrified to have any Semi "authorized" representatives even look at it, for fear of being forced into more problems I don't want.

I did buy an OBD port lock for the rare occasion I have to visit the dealer for anything.
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Unread 06-19-2015, 12:10 PM   #13
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Well, it's official, Jeep, Chrysler and Fiat vehicles are at the bottom of the latest quality study
I'm a die hard fan of the WK & WH but is hard to be a fan when Jeep doesn't care about its customers, the WK2 is even worse, I would never get close to one.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/fiat-chr...udy-1434560748
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Unread 06-22-2015, 10:54 AM   #14
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I did buy an OBD port lock for the rare occasion I have to visit the dealer for anything.
I only see OBD port covers that say "Do not flash", can you point me to the obd2 port lock you have? I'm interested in one.
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Unread 06-22-2015, 10:58 AM   #15
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can you point me to this obd2 port lock? I'm interested in one.
http://www.autocyb.com/

This is what I got....
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