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Unread 07-11-2013, 11:33 PM   #61
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Omelet recommended the Rustys rear spacer. He said irs advertised as 2" but used without the coil isolator on the spacer side it is 1.5"

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Unread 07-12-2013, 04:52 AM   #62
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So I've been looking at the JBA rear coil spacers. They apparently are 3/8". IM guessing you stack them on top of the factory lower spring isolator or on top and bottom. Anybody using these with any success? Thinking about just going with one spacer up front instead of two as it seems more hassle than anything and these JBA spacers for rear.
What is the standard for the "Modified OME"? as in what do others run in their rigs?
The rear JBA "spacers" are simply rubber isolators just like what you currently have from the factory. They are not actually spacers, some guys just stack isolators for a little more height.
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Unread 07-12-2013, 06:04 AM   #63
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Do any other rear spacers work, say for a jk or a wj? Probably been asked a million times

Sitting 21.75 up front and maybe 21 out back btw, after everything settled
As said - Rusty's rear 2" poly spacers would work. I didn't want to go this route because I didn't plan on stacking strut spacers. For one it presents some ride height issues up front and two it was going to involve more time and effort for install than I was willing to invest. With just one strut spacer I'm just under 23" hub to fender up front. Adding a full 1.5" out back would give me too much rake.

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The rear JBA "spacers" are simply rubber isolators just like what you currently have from the factory. They are not actually spacers, some guys just stack isolators for a little more height.
^^^ This. I tried to subtly clear that up a couple posts back but it should be understood now. Also, these isolators aren't exclusive to JBA - shop around. For example I got mine here:

http://www.jeep4x4center.com/rear-sp...2089341ac.html

Slightly cheaper for the pair and shipping was a touch less for me through them.
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Unread 07-12-2013, 07:27 AM   #64
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As said - Rusty's rear 2" poly spacers would work. I didn't want to go this route because I didn't plan on stacking strut spacers. For one it presents some ride height issues up front and two it was going to involve more time and effort for install than I was willing to invest. With just one strut spacer I'm just under 23" hub to fender up front. Adding a full 1.5" out back would give me too much rake.

^^^ This. I tried to subtly clear that up a couple posts back but it should be understood now. Also, these isolators aren't exclusive to JBA - shop around. For example I got mine here:

http://www.jeep4x4center.com/rear-sp...2089341ac.html

Slightly cheaper for the pair and shipping was a touch less for me through them.
Um Ok was just trying to get a feel for what others were running since I decided not to stack two spacers up front. Wasn't trying to annoy you
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Unread 07-12-2013, 08:07 AM   #65
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Um Ok was just trying to get a feel for what others were running since I decided not to stack two spacers up front. Wasn't trying to annoy you
No I'm not annoyed just trying to avoid any confusion for subsequent posters. No worries. :-)
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Unread 07-14-2013, 01:58 PM   #66
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I just did....3 new JBA spacers on the drivers side and 2 spacers on the pax side....I got slight bump up in the rear...I am now over 22" from center of wheel to the bottom of the fenderwell....slight rake overall. That is what I wanted. With the HD OME I was sagging slightly in the rear.
I feel like I'm missing something here; can you draw a diagram or a word picture? I've got a brand new HD set up yet to be installed, but I want to do it right the first time - I want to maintain the stock rake, but I'm not sure how many spacers I'll need, if at all.
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Unread 07-14-2013, 05:28 PM   #67
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I feel like I'm missing something here; can you draw a diagram or a word picture? I've got a brand new HD set up yet to be installed, but I want to do it right the first time - I want to maintain the stock rake, but I'm not sure how many spacers I'll need, if at all.
OK I will do my best to explain the use of the rear spring spacers....

When you remove your rear springs there will be a rubber isolator at the top and the bottom of the springs...these are used to eliminate metal on metal contact. If you stack several of the rubber isolators on top of each other you get a rear lift.

In your situation I would install the OME HD and replace the old isolators with new ones....you will need 4 total...2 on each side, 1 at the top and 1 at the bottom of the spring.

I would then drive the vehicle for several thousand kms and then see where the OME HD settles....My diesel after a year was riding lower in the rear. It was lower on the driver side than the passenger side. At this point I added some more of the isolators to eliminate the sag.

Below is the picture of the driver side rear spring.....as you can see I have 2 new spring isolators at the bottom...I have 2 new ones at the top...on the pax side I will 2 new on the bottom and 1 new one at the top....

These will eventually wear out as all rubber does, but it will be many many miles from know....


I used a spring clamp compressor to get them in...I am thinking anymore than 4 and you will need to drop the rear axle.
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Has anybody seen this front "leveling kit"? It's states as a 2.5" kit but doesn't look close to that at all. Thinking about this kit for my modified OME.


My buddy has tundra struts on his 4runner which is basically similar to our OME and has a 1.5" strut spacer on top and has about 4-4.5" lift. His CV angles are a little extreme but it works and does pretty well.

I know everyone advises against it but I kind of wanna try a similar setup and see what happens.
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You have to remember that the front strut spacers adds about double its thickness. .25" adds about .5" and so on.
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You have to remember that the front strut spacers adds about double its thickness. .25" adds about .5" and so on.
Totally aware. I meant they label it as a 2.5. It only looks about .5" thick.
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Unread 07-14-2013, 09:20 PM   #71
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I used a spring clamp compressor to get them in...I am thinking anymore than 4 and you will need to drop the rear axle.
If the lower shock bolt and sway links are disco'd, calipers off and hung high, the rear axle will droop a lot with jackstands under the unirail. The driver lower control arm is limiting factor.

Then just compress the spring however much needed.
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Has anybody seen this front "leveling kit"? It's states as a 2.5" kit but doesn't look close to that at all. Thinking about this kit for my modified OME.

My buddy has tundra struts on his 4runner which is basically similar to our OME and has a 1.5" strut spacer on top and has about 4-4.5" lift. His CV angles are a little extreme but it works and does pretty well.

I know everyone advises against it but I kind of wanna try a similar setup and see what happens.
^^^ Your cv's and rack will be screaming if not fail.
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Unread 07-14-2013, 09:40 PM   #73
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^^^ Your cv's and rack will be screaming if not fail.
Yeah I realize angles will be less than ideal but it's a possible route and my buddy 4runner hasn't had any issues with a similar setup. Just an option IM thinking of
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OK I will do my best to explain the use of the rear spring spacers....

When you remove your rear springs there will be a rubber isolator at the top and the bottom of the springs...these are used to eliminate metal on metal contact. If you stack several of the rubber isolators on top of each other you get a rear lift.

In your situation I would install the OME HD and replace the old isolators with new ones....you will need 4 total...2 on each side, 1 at the top and 1 at the bottom of the spring.

I would then drive the vehicle for several thousand kms and then see where the OME HD settles....My diesel after a year was riding lower in the rear. It was lower on the driver side than the passenger side. At this point I added some more of the isolators to eliminate the sag.

Below is the picture of the driver side rear spring.....as you can see I have 2 new spring isolators at the bottom...I have 2 new ones at the top...on the pax side I will 2 new on the bottom and 1 new one at the top....

These will eventually wear out as all rubber does, but it will be many many miles from know....


I used a spring clamp compressor to get them in...I am thinking anymore than 4 and you will need to drop the rear axle.
Beauty! That's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
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Unread 07-26-2013, 07:30 AM   #75
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So have we come to the conclusion that using rustys 1/4" strut spacer, 2" rear spacer, and trac bar is the easiest, safest way to achieve the extra lift out of an OME? I need more lift and this option seems perfect. For those running it now, how much rake ?
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