I dropped mine off this morning, they still do not know whats wrong with it. The diagnostics that they use would not link up with Chrysler all day so the shop is full of cars that can not be fixed without retrieving a code. Pissed off right now.
Edit: I got it back today. They re-flashed it 3 times as the procedure required(this was not done on the original recall) and it works flawlessly now!
My low 4 works now. Apparently the dealer didn't follow the explicit instructions to clear fault codes 3x.... Great that it works. Sad I had to tell them.
I responded to another post about this, but not all the techs are following the recall procedure. A code may pop up after the flash and it has to be cleared three times in a row or it will look like a dead actuator. Half the techs at my work cant seem to read that and i keep fixing them after the fact. Its not chryslers fault, its techs who cant read. I think they put a hold on actuators because if this dilemma. I pasted the recall info in the other post.
I took my GC in for the recall. Tried the 4 low a couple days later and got the Service 4WD System message. Service advisor said the two were probably not related. I took it back in with a copy of the instructions. They cleared the codes, reflashed it and it is working fine now. Service advisor warned that the transfer case actuator might be going bad and if 4 low stops working they will probably need to replace the actuator. We'll see how long this lasts.
My theory is that the new software has a narrower acceptable range for the position sensor in the actuator and a worn actuator will now come up as no good, even though it functions fine.
I had the recall done in August, but didnt start reading about the negative effects it had since a few days ago.
When I shift into neutral before I do the shift, the "N" LED does not light up on my center console. The first time I tried to shift it, I got a "service system" message. Everytime I tried to shift since then, I never got that message again and the LED does not light up. What options do we have?
I have a 2008 Grand Cherokee limited and had the recall serviced on 9/14/13. Two days ago my 4 low stopped working and I got the service indicator light. My power drivers seat is also randomly moving for the last two days, coincidentally! We called the dealership who argued profusely but am taking it back next week. I also called the Chrysler number on the recall notice and of course they know nothing. From talking with a technician at another dealership, he stated that if the flash is not done completely these problems occur. We will see what the service department does next week!
I had N23 done a while back (while fighting over other issues), but I ran thru 4Lo and back a few times in the driveway yesterday and mine seems fine.. so not ALL N23's are a disaster.. knock on wood..
I had N23 done a while back (while fighting over other issues), but I ran thru 4Lo and back a few times in the driveway yesterday and mine seems fine.. so not ALL N23's are a disaster.. knock on wood..
Mine has been a full blown out disaster! Got the N23 done 3 times and then just had the actuator replaced and now it doesn't work at all. Highly pissed to say the least. Wish I would have never took the dang Jeep in!
Mine has been a full blown out disaster! Got the N23 done 3 times and then just had the actuator replaced and now it doesn't work at all. Highly pissed to say the least. Wish I would have never took the dang Jeep in!
Great. So what now?? Just live without 4-low and hope Chrysler owns up for the disaster they have created. I demanded the dealer to Reflash mine after they diagnosed the actuator bad and it worked again for 2 weeks went out and checked it again last night to see if it was still working and got the service 4wd indicator again.
I have no idea. I don't understand how some people are getting the recall done and not having a problem? Or they're not actually getting the recall done???
I have no idea. I don't understand how some people are getting the recall done and not having a problem? Or they're not actually getting the recall done???
I have no idea. I don't understand how some people are getting the recall done and not having a problem? Or they're not actually getting the recall done???
I bet 90% of the people that get it done don't use 4lo. If EVERYONE that got the flash done or if it was a requirement of the update to test 4lo for proper operation there'd be ALOT more being done to correct the problem.
There's got to be a simple explanation for all this. From everything I've read, I think either:
1. There were one or more revisions to the FDCM over the years and the flash is not compatible with all of them.
2. The FDCM and/or actuator was already failed, or getting ready to fail, before the person went in for the flash and the flash exacerbated the issue.
3. The dealer did the flash incorrectly and can't fix it because they don't know what the heck they're doing.
Sadly, #3 probably happens more often than the others! Glad I apparently got lucky. I feel for those who didn't.
I'm fed up with it for sure. Flashed 3 times. Codes cleared 3 times each of those times. New actuator installed. Worked for two weeks and now the message again! Past the point of being pissed! They were shown when it was dropped off that the 4wd low worked in the lot.
I checked mine a few times today. Still working fine almost 3 weeks after the 2nd (corrected) flash. Has anyone else had, say, an 09 or 10 fail? Since mine was one of the last made, I wonder if it has some revised or newer parts?
Yeah, my 10 failed. Been flashed three separate occasions so far. Current 4-lo is working, but I'm not confident it will continue. Would really like this resolved before the northeast winter comes.
Same problems here: 4Lo worked fine, done the recall, the message Service 4 Low System appeared, brought the Jeep back and re-done the flash, worked for a few days and the error came back again (C140f) so another reflash and they said that if it comes back it's probably the t-case actuator. Pissed me off the fact that I had to pay for the last time and if the error comes back again I'll call Chrysler for sure.
Update fellas. My WK got into an accident. Nothing major. However, my air bag light was on after that and my body shop tried to "clear the code" (which I knew he wouldn't be able to). Anyway, he ended up taking it to the Jeep dealer that I took it for when I had to get it reflashed. They fixed the airbag light issue (loose fuse?), and I noticed on the work order that they did a "reflash" again.
I called the body shop and asked him what they flashed and he says "as soon as I brought it to them the SM said that he had seen it before" needless to say, my 4Lo works now! I'm guessing they know they effed up the first flash.
I had mine flashed twice. Second one worked for about a week and now it is bad. Service Advisor said it would be a new actuator. I think the new software is more sensitive to actuator position and any wear trips the code and you need to buy a new actuator.
I'll be buying a Commander once we find the right one for us. I can't find anywhere in the thread... What is the ID # of this recall? I want to make sure I can locate the exact recall notice, so I can know if the Commander we buy will had this recall done or not ... So I know how to manage the sale with that info in mind. Thx
My wife and I bought a 2006 Commander in early September, I put it in 4Low during our test drives, no error messages. Had a Jeep dealer pull the VIN history and the recall was performed in August.
After reading this thread I am now scared to put in 4 Low!!! I will have no recourse if the recall messed up the actuator.
I should probably try shifting it into 4 Low again before I NEED 4 Low this winter, better to have than not.
I know, but I thought that was the "street name" for it and not the actual Chrysler ID for it hehe
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