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Unread 12-29-2013, 11:44 AM   #16
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Really dunno what all the fuss is about with the stock brakes on these WKs. I never found an issue with either of the WKs brakes we've had. On the '06 I swapped out the rotors and pads at around 60K miles IIRC - oe style replacements - did great. On our '07 I swapped in new oe style pads when I bought it (~53K miles) and kept the stockers until this summer (~70K miles). I put Centric rotors and Akebono pads on this go around - far less coin than Stillens - never had an issue.

I've wheeled it moderately, heavily, Offroad Parks, very steep CO trails, hauled with it, pull my XJ on a 16' tandem axle with it - no problems, no squeaking, no squishing, never had an issue stopping when I needed to.


For me, it's all about the actual stopping power. I've never had any problems with any of the stock jeep brakes either….And my family has owned 4-5 Jeeps. But with my WK for example, I have noticed by the time we add a lift, bigger/heavier wheels and tires, armor it up to the fullest, add a roof rack full of gear for a weekend camping trip, or even hauling our 19-23 ft boats or trailers, it takes a bit more force/power to bring that sucker to a complete stop from higher speeds. I'm not saying the stock pads/rotors won't work fine on a daily basis, but the performance of the brakes can be improved quite a bit with the addition of better equipment. It's a piece of mind for me on any vehicle. I guess it just comes down to personal preference in the end.

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Unread 12-29-2013, 12:38 PM   #17
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For me, it's all about the actual stopping power. I've never had any problems with any of the stock jeep brakes either….And my family has owned 4-5 Jeeps. But with my WK for example, I have noticed by the time we add a lift, bigger/heavier wheels and tires, armor it up to the fullest, add a roof rack full of gear for a weekend camping trip, or even hauling our 19-23 ft boats or trailers, it takes a bit more force/power to bring that sucker to a complete stop from higher speeds. I'm not saying the stock pads/rotors won't work fine on a daily basis, but the performance of the brakes can be improved quite a bit with the addition of better equipment. It's a piece of mind for me on any vehicle. I guess it just comes down to personal preference in the end.
Of course it takes more force to stop a heavier object (i.e. the loaded rig you describe). But take into consideration that the 4.7, for example, is rated to tow a pretty heavy load. That is a rating based on the factory assets of the vehicle - to include the braking system.

Definitely agree with the "personal preference" and "peace of mind" comments. I just figure I'd point out that there are cheaper, more than adequate options out there than high dollar slotted/drilled yadayada stuff.
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Unread 12-29-2013, 01:48 PM   #18
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You mentioned the brake fluid looks good, when was it last replaced? Looking at it does not tell you much.

A mushy pedal is caused by contaminated fluid, water in fluid, or expanding old rubber lines...its usually hydraulic related.

I am of the opinion that the stock brakes are pretty good at stock weight levels. My first set was replaced at 90k miles due to severe pad deposits (aka warping) due to heavy towing with a surge brake car trailer (uhaul).

If you want to upgrade, get a new set of blank rotors, a GOOD set of pads with a higher coefficient of friction level, some DOT 4 fluid, and avoid limo stops.
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Unread 12-29-2013, 04:09 PM   #19
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You mentioned the brake fluid looks good, when was it last replaced? Looking at it does not tell you much.

A mushy pedal is caused by contaminated fluid, water in fluid, or expanding old rubber lines...its usually hydraulic related.

I am of the opinion that the stock brakes are pretty good at stock weight levels. My first set was replaced at 90k miles due to severe pad deposits (aka warping) due to heavy towing with a surge brake car trailer (uhaul).

If you want to upgrade, get a new set of blank rotors, a GOOD set of pads with a higher coefficient of friction level, some DOT 4 fluid, and avoid limo stops.
I just got the car about 2 months ago.. I bought it with 130k miles on it. The service history on the car is well maintained. I bought it from the original owner who was an OCD clean freak. Weird but good for me getting her car. Receipt said it was done at the 100k maintenance along with the trans fluid and lots of other fluids :-)

Good brakes aren't that expensive. Comparatively of course. I'm used to race cars like my last one where I got baer 2 pice rotors and 4 piston calipers etc.. That setup was like 2000 bux. Looks like I can put slotted and drilled rotors and good pads along with braided lines all around for like $500. Easy decision.
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Unread 12-29-2013, 06:16 PM   #20
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Really dunno what all the fuss is about with the stock brakes on these WKs. I never found an issue with either of the WKs brakes we've had. On the '06 I swapped out the rotors and pads at around 60K miles IIRC - oe style replacements - did great. On our '07 I swapped in new oe style pads when I bought it (~53K miles) and kept the stockers until this summer (~70K miles). I put Centric rotors and Akebono pads on this go around - far less coin than Stillens - never had an issue.
that's why I made sure to throw "worn out stock setup" in my comment. my jeep had ~75k on it when I got it and the brakes had definitely been neglected by previous owner. I'm sure had I gone with OEM style replacements I would have noticed a very very similar increase in performance over the worn out stock stuff it was replacing.

I don't remember exactly, but pricewise, going the r1 slotted/drilled route wasn't much more $$$ if anything at all. r1 is a vendor on one of the other sites and I just msg'd them directly and got stuff for a great price.
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When I go onto the r1 rotors website only slotted/drilled rotors for sort display?
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Unread 01-01-2014, 10:41 AM   #22
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When I go onto the r1 rotors website only slotted/drilled rotors for sort display?
I put in vehicle info for my 2005 and this is what came up. They have quite a few to choose from: http://www.r1concepts.com/2005-Jeep-GrandCherokee.aspx
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Unread 01-01-2014, 12:47 PM   #23
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Replaced the brakes on my 07 Overland back in the spring with NAPA Reactive One rotors and pads. Work great and zero issues so far.
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