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Unread 04-23-2015, 10:52 AM   #1
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More lift, new shocks?

Right now I have the OME HD springs with Bilstein 5100s in the rear and 4600s in the front.

This summer I'd like to add the quarter inch strut spacer in the front and replace rear coil isolator with a 2 inch poly spacer to try to squeak a little more lift out of my current set up.

My question is do I need to replace my shocks with extended travel shocks or get an adjustable track bar? My goal is to achieve more of the modified OME set up while increasing my possible travel on the trail.

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Unread 04-23-2015, 12:36 PM   #2
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Yes. You'd be limited in the front with the OME springs and 4600hd's already. an extra 2" in the rear would require longer rear shocks as wel..
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Unread 04-25-2015, 07:23 PM   #3
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Any suggestions as to what size shocks?
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You will want an adjustable trackbar with that set-up.......
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Unread 04-26-2015, 09:16 AM   #5
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I figured I might need one if I choose to do this so thanks for the clarification. Shock suggestions anyone?
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Unread 04-27-2015, 10:31 AM   #6
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Any suggestions as to what size shocks?
In the rear I would be looking for the same size as the guys running a superlift. Which is 28" extended.

In the front you could go with bilstein 5100's set @ the lowest setting if your angles allow it, and not bother with the strut plates. Do you have a lot of weight in the front? WHat is your current height from axle to fender? If your @ 22.5" already I wouldn't go much higher in the front...
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Unread 04-27-2015, 11:26 AM   #7
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You will want an adjustable trackbar with that set-up.......
I'm also planning to do a lift on the rear over 2.5" and wasn't aware that I should be adding an adjustable track bar to keep the rear centered when going over 2".

Is there any real difference between a bar such as Rocky Road's (about $100) vs Rusty's (around $130)?

They kinda look like exactly the same bar to me, when seeing pictures. I know that's common when companies sell the same stuff... with their private label on it.
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I'm also planning to do a lift on the rear over 2.5" and wasn't aware that I should be adding an adjustable track bar to keep the rear centered when going over 2".

Is there any real difference between a bar such as Rocky Road's (about $100) vs Rusty's (around $130)?

They kinda look like exactly the same bar to me, when seeing pictures. I know that's common when companies sell the same stuff... with their private label on it.
AFAIK, there used to be an issue with the bushings on RRO's trackbar fitting in the mounting brackets. The Rusty's is made with a larger diameter DOM tube (though I'm not sure about the wall thickness) and the threaded end is beefier than RRO's.

IMO, anything over a straight OME HD coil in the rear will need a longer rear trackbar to recenter the axle.
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Unread 04-28-2015, 08:56 AM   #9
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I found 28" extended Bilstein 5100s on crawl off-road but I didn't see any extended length front shocks. Should I still be looking for 4600s?

I think I'll be going with the rustys trac bar and possibly JBA UCAs just to prevent any ball joint failures. Better safe than sorry in that respect
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I found 28" extended Bilstein 5100s on crawl off-road but I didn't see any extended length front shocks. Should I still be looking for 4600s?
You could just run bilstein 5100s (extended length 19"+) on their lowest setting. and no need for strut plates.
http://cart.bilsteinus.com/product/24-225793/293459/4WD

Unless you think that .75" is too much additional lift. What is your current static ride height?
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Unread 04-29-2015, 12:19 PM   #11
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I'll have to take measurements later once I'm home. I want to avoid being over 23 or 23.5 right?
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I'll have to take measurements later once I'm home. I want to avoid being over 23 or 23.5 right?
I would not aim to have static height over 22.75" in the front personally. Omelet had trouble @ 23" with OME HD and two strut spacers (heavy bumper and winch)
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Unread 04-29-2015, 09:17 PM   #13
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Right now, my front is roughly 22.25" hub to fender with minimal weight on the front except for the v8 engine
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The Monroe Load Leveller rear shocks (#58643) that fit the Ford F-150 are 16.59"/27.55" with 10.96" of travel. Gabriel front struts (G56807) are 14.25"/21.0" with 6.75" of travel, while the Bilstein 5100 strut (24-225793) are 13.35"/19.2" with 5.85" of travel.
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I would not aim to have static height over 22.75" in the front personally. Omelet had trouble @ 23" with OME HD and two strut spacers (heavy bumper and winch)
I was wondering about trying the same "modified" OME coils and OME struts with double stacked 1/4" plates set up.
I just added a full 4xguard Matrix to the front end and also have the 5.7 Hemi.... So I'm wondering about either 2 stacked plates and OME HD coils, or skipping single or stacked plates and just using the Bilstein 5100's up front, set at 3/4".

But if that was giving Omlet 23" with a heavy bumper and winch, then I'm not so sure.

My XK has 97k on the odometer, so my springs might be sagging just a little I'm guessing. I had 19.5" before I added the Matrix today. I'm going to have to measure tomorrow now that I added the Matrix, but guessing it now closer to 19"...so I might have like 3.5" to work with, which would put me at about 22.5" or so.
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