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post #2 of 17 Old 11-28-2013, 11:17 AM
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If you only torqued the lugnuts to 40lbs-ft that was the problem,should be 100lbs-ft.Once one loosens it vibrates the rest loose.

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40ft lbs for lugs? Really? I do 95 ft lbs, re-check after 50 miles. Yes it's possible they all rattled loose....in fact I think you have he best evidence to back that up.

Sucks to hear that happened to you.
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If you only torqued the lugnuts to 40lbs-ft that was the problem,should be 100lbs-ft.Once one loosens it vibrates the rest loose.
I've had that happen before Not a fun time loosing a rear wheel on the hiway

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post #6 of 17 Old 11-28-2013, 11:27 AM
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Typo - sorry. 70 ft lbs. I understand the spec is 100 ft lbs (+/- 15), but I have been tightening those lugs to 70-75 lbs for years. Never had any problems. Ever.
100lbs +/- 15 is 85-115 so you were under.It was bound to happen sooner or later.I always go to max spec,better to safe the sorry and yes you must recheck after 50 miles or so.


By rotational forces the right side lugnuts tend to loosen while the left side tightens itself and why big trucks use both left hand and right hand thread wheel studs/lugnuts.

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I agree^^ and i think large temperature differences between the alloy rims and steel hubs makes a difference too.I torque to 120-130 ft lbs and my 125lb wife can break them loose with a 2' breaker bar .

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Maybe we should start a "lost a wheel" club. I lost the left front at 45-50 mph on a country highway.
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I'd join... Lost the left rear going into a right hander at 30

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100lbs +/- 15 is 85-115 so you were under.It was bound to happen sooner or later.I always go to max spec,better to safe the sorry and yes you must recheck after 50 miles or so.


By rotational forces the right side lugnuts tend to loosen while the left side tightens itself and why big trucks use both left hand and right hand thread wheel studs/lugnuts.
There is such a thing as over-torquing.
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There is such a thing as over-torquing.
This becomes clear when your wheel goes rolling down the road with the studs still attached.

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There is such a thing as over-torquing.
Yes there is but going to max spec is not "over-torqueing" and they under rate the wheel studs by a far amount.

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Yes there is but going to max spec is not "over-torqueing" and they under rate the wheel studs by a far amount.
It's true that the studs can handle a bit more stress, but I make it a practice to initially torque it to the minimum setting. That way if theres any play or discrepancy in my mind that it's not secure enough, I still have some wiggle room in how much more torque I can apply.

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It's true that the studs can handle a bit more stress, but I make it a practice to initially torque it to the minimum setting. That way if theres any play or discrepancy in my mind that it's not secure enough, I still have some wiggle room in how much more torque I can apply.
In aviation, unless it is a castellated nut with a cotter pin we always torque to the max setting. Then when checking the torque, you use the min setting to ensure it hasn't moved.

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