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Unread 10-26-2011, 09:09 AM   #16
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Bone STOCK, XK limited with HEMI, full tank of gas,

Front 18"

Rear 19.5"

Thanks to the OP for starting this thread. It's good info when trying to decide which lift to get. I noticed some variation with OME. Anyone know why this is? Is ARB's tolerances that loose?

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Unread 10-26-2011, 09:23 AM   #17
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Old Man Emu Heavy Duty:

F: 22.25

R: 22.5

The difference in OME's - in my unofficial opinion - will depend on HD vs MD; full or undersized spare (and location: on the roof won't bring the rear down like in the well because it centers over the rear axle better); gear in your rig; fuel tank full or not; is the ground the rig sits on level when measurements taken.

Buda: good thread - like the idea.
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Unread 10-26-2011, 09:30 AM   #18
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Bone STOCK, limited with HEMI, full tank of gas,

Front 18"

Rear 19.5"

Thanks to the OP for starting this thread. It's good info when trying to decide which lift to get. I noticed some variation with OME. Anyone know why this is? Is ARB's tolerances that loose?
It can be the differance between engines, armor, gas, and whatever else they are/aren't carrieing.

Where in Cali are you? SoCal by any chance?



My stock measurement at 45K with stock skids and no added weight was:

F - 19"
R - 19 3/4"
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Unread 10-26-2011, 10:29 AM   #19
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It can be the differance between engines, armor, gas, and whatever else they are/aren't carrieing.

Where in Cali are you? SoCal by any chance?

My stock measurement at 45K with stock skids and no added weight was:

F - 19"
R - 19 3/4"

I'm in San Jose. (sf bay area)

I noticed no one else has a 1.5" rake like I have. I guess a HEMI and skids add a full inch of sag. I would assume my vehicle is on the heavy side as I have every option that adds weight. Skids, HEMI, tow pkg, 3rd row seats...
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Unread 10-26-2011, 10:44 AM   #20
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Plus it is a Commander! How many miles are on it? If it has a lot of miles the front shocks might be bad. Adding some Bilsteins might bring it up a little.
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Unread 10-26-2011, 01:55 PM   #21
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Plus it is a Commander! How many miles are on it? If it has a lot of miles the front shocks might be bad. Adding some Bilsteins might bring it up a little.
bilsteins and a set of rustys spacers upfront to level her out would do the trick..
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Unread 10-26-2011, 02:23 PM   #22
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do the bilsteins really add any lift by themselves?
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Unread 10-26-2011, 02:31 PM   #23
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If the struts are blown then there is no pressure in them, as opposed to a good strut that will have pressure forcing the suspension up. People have reported slight increase in height after installing new ones.
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Unread 10-26-2011, 02:49 PM   #24
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do the bilsteins really add any lift by themselves?
i think the concensus on them is they will give you like 1/2" to 3/4"...
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Unread 10-26-2011, 05:27 PM   #25
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Rough Country Spacers with [longer than stock] Monroe load levelers
Front: 21.5
Rear Passenger: 22
Rear Driver: 22 1/4

1/4 tank of gas and roughly 100lbs of tools in the back.

Update: Measured driver's side rear as well cause I didn't seem to get as much lift out of the longer Monroe's. Most of the weight in the back is sitting on passenger's side. But I also filled up today and it really didn't move. Still came out to 22 passenger side. However in the end I did notice a difference after putting them on. It now sits about perfect. (Besides that I had to scrounge around for a 7"ish drop to pull the parade float.)
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i think the concensus on them is they will give you like 1/2" to 3/4"...
dang. that's like over 75lbs of pressure per shock at least. hmm.

I really just want 1" front and 1/2" back. bilsteins + the 1/2 front spacer may be my ticket.

WITH ~600 lbs in the back: 19.5 front, 18 rear. I'll come back with unloaded numbers.

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Unread 10-27-2011, 04:20 PM   #27
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dang. that's like over 75lbs of pressure per shock at least. hmm.

I really just want 1" front and 1/2" back. bilsteins + the 1/2 front spacer may be my ticket.

WITH ~600 lbs in the back: 19.5 front, 18 rear. I'll come back with unloaded numbers.

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I don't think you gain any lift from the pressure of the strut. It's the design of the body and where it mounts to the fork. I believe the stop tab is .5 -.75" lower on the shock body which results in the slight lift.
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Unread 10-27-2011, 04:25 PM   #28
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WOW. THAT is sticky-worthy info. for real? Sounds like a boo-boo on bilstein's part but I *like* that. The
"B" won't lose its lift as it ages and loses pressure. But the same wouldn't apply for the rear... right?... so a full set of B's basically helps level the front up 1/2" and "might" raise the rear 1/4" if it has fresher pressure.

Right? There's another member here who wanted to do similar to me.... this would be the ticket to get the front up 1"... bilsteins + spacer. then cut down a poly spacer for the rear...

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You can use the Monroe Load Levelers in the rear if you just want a little bump. They're coil-overs so they deflect some of the pressure from the factory springs resulting in some height. They have stock replacements or if you're lifted some of us have been using the longer model made for an F-150. With the longer set I gained over an inch in the rear.
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Unread 10-27-2011, 07:48 PM   #30
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I'd rather stick with "one set" of springs in the rear.... I thought about the monroes but would prefer to do the spacers out back. Front-- I'd double the rusty's spacers if the studs on the strut plate were longer, but they aren't, and my one attempt to hammer them out was a fail. So front is either, figure out how to hammer out studs so I can install longer ones with another 1/4" shim, or possibly go the bilstein route.

do we know for certain that the bilsteins have a different tab location? I'll order them tomorrow... Would kolak know?

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