I was just browsing Jeepin by Al's website and came across this. I hadn't heard of this kit and was wondering what people think of it. I think it is pretty expensive that's for sure! But I was also wondering how an adjustable coil over (up to 4" lift) could work just by replacing the upper control arm. Wouldn't this put alot of stress on the other stock components due to severe angles?
4 inch JBA Adjust-A-Strut coilover lift kit for Jeep Commander / Grand Cherokee, 2005-2010, full spring lift, Max Kit, this is our top of the line spring lift from JBA * 4" JBA Adjust-A-Strut front coilover system, sum assembly required * Al's Gen 6.5 A-arms * 4" rear coil springs * 4" Bilstein 7100 rear shocks w/ remote reservoir * Front and Rear bump stops * Installation instructions * One cool looking Jeep!
I don't know a lot about lifts when it comes to WK's, but I do know that they said "sum" assembly required. Not spending 4 grand on a product where they can't even spell a word. Two superlifts for the price of one unheard of lift....hmm.
I know a few poeple running the same lifts on KJ/KK's and they love it.Only the highest quality parts are used hence the price and Marlin is one of the best people to deal with and is even better if you have a issue he is all over it very fast and will make it right with no questions asked.His level of customer service is worth the price alone.
I'm pretty sure craftsmanship is top notch with the parts since people have been very satisfied with his upper arms for the WK. It's just the stock parts that I would be worried about.
Wow....just found this info on the home page of Jeepin by Al too! 6" lift anybody?
Jeep Grand Cherokee Lift kits for 2005 - 2010
JBA is making the only 4" Coilover Spring lift kit for the WK
JBA Adjust-A-Strut coil over lift system for your Jeep Grand Cherokee
2" WK lift kit for the Jeep Grand Cherokee 2005-2010
4" WK lift kit for Jeep Grand Cherokee 2005-2010
A work in progress 6" XK lift kit for Jeep Grand Cherokee 2005-2010
I'm sure they make a FANTASTIC product. But thats costs a pretty penny, and tbh... I'd probably just end up waiting for more vendors to come out with something more feasible. ZJ's and WJ's can get that same amount of lift for half the price. I can wait a few years to get to that point.
Ya I don't think I'm buying it! For 4k you get a 4" lift with coilovers. Big Woop! The front coil over strut set-up I have now is basically the same thing in my book. Plus all that height and still using the stock geometry! The only thing that comes to mind right now is Acid's hybrid lift. It was cool, but not practical for wheeling. I think he proved that! I'll just stick to my OME for 1/4 the price and run the same tire size. :shhh:
I wonder if anyone looks at that tiny picture and actually just clicks right on through and buys the kit no questions asked. That could be a fantastic (if pricey) product for all we know, but the presentation is extremely counterproductive.
I wonder if anyone looks at that tiny picture and actually just clicks right on through and buys the kit no questions asked. That could be a fantastic (if pricey) product for all we know, but the presentation is extremely counterproductive.
I can't judge the lift at all, but I do have the WK's UCA's.
They are greasable and have replacable ball joints.
I was very satisfied with the service and I am very satisfied with the quality. Also my mechanic (dealer) I had instal them commented on the excellent quality.
I have taken them on a 6000 mile trip to Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Moab & Colo no problems & performed very well.
No squeaks or any noise at all.
Looks like the price of the lift include the UCA's?
For that money I would buy an old beat up Cherokee, 4runner or Tacoma, put a cheap lift on and buy a trailer for a little more than the cost of that lift. You could then use your WK to tow your new toy around.
You guys need to post your build threads by the way... I only KNOW of three atm. I want to make a quick build threads summary, so we can get feedback from each other. I want to organize them and 'hopefully' have them sticked on this forum. It'll be nice so people can get a quick idea of what people are doing with their WK's around the world. I would suggest doing it in the General forum, but the guy that updates that list hasn't visited the site in a long time. And Of course we could put them in the Jeep builds forum...but that has a compilation of ALL models... We need an easily identifiable, sticked, WK Build Thread, that me (or someone) can update regularly.
So that is $2100 for the front set up. That leaves one expensive rear set up!
Lets think:
-Rear coils $150
-Adjustable Track Bar $150
-I am guessing control arms too $400
-And then shocks, 7100 Really!?! a set of 5150 is more than enough unless you plan on blasting down Baja those are unnecessary.
-Probable extended swaybay links and brake line extensions $50
I would go out on a limb and say that lift is probably a little flexier than a sl kit. Other than that I dont see the point. Probably a little simpler install too.
I am very interested on those coils, might have to try them out next year. I bet they are pretty damn nice off-road.
On a side note, guys.. try not to be to negative against the vendor, we have very few vendors building us stuff as it is. The last thing they need is negative feedback from something they haven't personally tried there lift! this is the reason why others won't build us parts.
Thank you! Ive heard nothing but great things from that company and I know people who love there products. They make very highend, amazing quality parts and im sure thats some of the reason for the price. Maybe the reason the websites not so hot is because they spend more time in the garage then on the computer. I just feel like that 2-4k could get me a set of rubbie 44's and start of a SFA conversion!!
22" from center of wheel to top of fender. 37.5" from ground to top of fender with the hankook 285's. I'm not sure if it was TRZ on JU but he had stated he took measurements from several new grands and they ranged from 18" to 19" stock (center of wheel to top of fender).
Omelet, what makes the SL kit so much better? I think you should really try a product out before you start to bash it. Just because its expensive and out of the range of many wheelers doesn't mean that its junk because its not as cheap (inexpensive) as the SL. Nothing wrong with stock geometry either. Stock arm ball joints will still fail sooner rather than later being non greaseable.
Yes, I work for JBA. So i will defend the product.
The idea behind this lift is more ground clearance under the front diff and having a tunable front end.
-Progressive rate springs (custom made)
-Custom Valved shocks from Bilstien in Germany. And yeah, there is Jeepspeed/Baja plans so 7100 it is.
-HD UCA with Hummer H1 greasable ball joint.
This lift can be run up to 5"+
This kit isn't for everyone, and remember, this is still a very new product.
so weird,... today must be single Carolina_WK out, and twist my words. Actually... I'm inclined to believe you may have misread, but your welcome to quote me, if indeed i did 'bash' this product, but I haven'tl. In fact, I even said i'm sure it is a 'FANTASTIC' product, in my FIRST post. The only comment that may been construed as 'contrary' to that is the fact that I said I would probably wait, and see what else is offered when I am ready for larger lift. Granted, this is more due to the fact that I JUST lifted this vehicle, and yes - it is expensive. But it wouldn't be the first time i've dropped several grand down for something crazy.
Weird... Today must be single Carolina_WK out. Actually... I believe you may have misread, but your welcome to quote me, if indeed i did 'bash' this product, but I haven'tl. In fact, I even said i'm sure it is a 'FANTASTIC' product, in my FIRST post. The only comment that may been construed as 'contrary' to that is the fact that I said I would probably wait, and see what else is offered when I am ready for larger lift. Granted, this is more due to the fact that I JUST lifted this vehicle, and yes - it is expensive. But it wouldn't be the first time i've dropped several grand down for something crazy.
... I can't speak for him, but I should note that he's not a 'basher' either. Like many of the WK people here, he is very intuitive. He's much further along in the mods timeline than myself and so he's probably able to visually see how things work mechanically - down to the individual components. So of course, his thought process, would be entirely speculative. Actually, I consider him a really stand-up guy.
Glad to know, I just want to know the reasoning behind a statement to see if it really is something that needs to be addressed or just one persons opinion.
I believe SL builds a quality product, but just was not a fan of redesigning a suspension and geometry that i'm sure Diamler spent a lot of time and money on. Plus the extra ground clearance.
I believe SL builds a quality product, but just was not a fan of redesigning a suspension and geometry that i'm sure Diamler spent a lot of time and money on. Plus the extra ground clearance.
See I have a major beef with SL,those idiots were designing a 4" lift for the KJ with the correct dropped knuckles.Made 2 sets and one set ended under the Liberator concept KJ which is to be crushed and the other set someone bought($2500) but no dang lift brought to the market.Was a big thread about it on LOST with SL starting it then just dropped off the earth.
At least you guys at JBA actually make the stuff when you advertize it.
Oh by the way who ever cut/formed my crossmember was spot on:thumbsup:,can't remember if I thanked Marlin or not.
ruquik - I am sorry if I came off as a dick. I really was just having a really bad week and I should not have even been posting. My apologies. I actually think it sounds like a great lift and is really what I would love in a WK lift. I never did like the fact that the SL lowers the front diff and the rear lower control arms. I just figured it was a necessity to keep from breaking or very quickly wearing components. I was actualy wanting to try a 4" lift without lowering anything but after Acidcold tried this and ended up having to replace multiple compnents many times I decided against it. So are you guys using anything else in the front besides the UCAs to help in longevity? Also what is the setup in the rear? Is it just coils and shocks or are there other mods? How much testing time has this kit indured? Any excessive wearing? I am infact very interested in this lift kit. It is a little outside of my price range though. Any chance of lowering the price for someone wanting to thoroughly test it?
Carolina_WK - thank you for your comment of kind words. You are a good friend.
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