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Unread 01-02-2012, 03:50 PM   #1
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HID Kit Help

I just bought an 05 WK and I want to put HIDs on the low beams and fog lights. I'm not quite sure where I the best site or place to but them is, so any help on that I would appreciate. Also, any information or help on the install I would also appreciate. Thanks!!

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Unread 01-02-2012, 04:22 PM   #2
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xenon depot has great kits
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Unread 01-02-2012, 04:56 PM   #3
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Amazon.com has good kit.. Make sure you get a wire harness with the kit. If ya don't, the hids will just strobe.
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Unread 01-02-2012, 09:11 PM   #4
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DDM tuning makes decent kits.
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Unread 01-03-2012, 08:12 AM   #5
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this comes up often. the hids do not retain nearly the focus or best light distribution unless they are in projector housings.

try this. search for HIR2, i think it's # 9012. these are 55 watt halogen bulbs, so they draw the SAME current, but the IR coating reflects more heat back in... so it's like an 1800 lumen bulb, for the same 55 watts. The filament location is IDENTICAL to the 9006, so the focus and aim is perfectly stock.

unlike "boosted" high watt bulbs, these will not burn out at 200-300 hours. They were originally developed for john deere tractors, and certain auto projectors (viper?) use them. $20 each at amazon. You have to trim one of the three mounting tabs, the electrical plug is identical.

I just did this to my mom's civic, with new housings as well. FAR better light control than HIDs (tried those too).

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Unread 01-03-2012, 11:27 AM   #6
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Be weary of cheap HID kits .. I went through 2 sets before I found a decent kit off of amazon.com ... You may run into a "Strobe" issue if you have automatic headlights, the cure to this is making sure your battery is disconnected and having your headlight switch off of auto .. You may have to play with them a while before they will work properly
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Unread 01-08-2012, 04:51 PM   #7
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Are the projector housings necessary? Im not quite sure how I feel about the way that they look.
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Unread 01-09-2012, 10:30 AM   #8
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well, let's put it this way. the focal point of a halogen lamp is a skinny filament. it is ~5mm long and less than 1mm wide. The factory housing puts low levels of light up close, and increases the intensity as the beam goes farther from the car, putting the hotspot up on the horizon and then slaps in a sharp cutoff above that. It is extremely precise. And it throws most of the light forward, not near the bumper, so you have better distance vision, and so YOU have better distance vision WHILE keeping glare out of other folks' eyes.

HID capsules are a 3-4mm sphere. and the whole sphere glows. but there's also a hotspot in the sphere, an arc shaped like a rainbow. It's a HUGE lit source compared to a tight filament. The reflectors just cant control it. Try wiggling your oem bulb around and see how the beam distorts up against a wall. Imagine getting ALL of that distortion at once. That's what HID does in a halogen housing.

What you gain: lumen output. and your friends that don't know any better think it's cool.

What you lose: controlled focus of your light. you may perceive greater vision, but you actually risk losing some due to too much light up close.

What they lose: they get glare in their eyes.

Unless you try to lower the focus, to reduce the glare, the responsible thing to do. But now you've increased the light in your foreground, and hurt your distance vision even more.

There's a lot more that goes into engineering a great lamp than you'd think. Stock, the WK has excellent lamps and mediocre brights. But the lows are hard to beat. Slapping a chinese HID kit in them is counter-productive.

Projectors CAN do a much better job of controlling the beam pattern, if they are set up properly. As a retrofit, it's the only way to go.
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Unread 01-09-2012, 01:12 PM   #9
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Are the projector housings necessary? Im not quite sure how I feel about the way that they look.
Yes, projectors are necessary for proper HID operation..
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Unread 01-14-2012, 01:11 AM   #10
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basically what there saying is if u don't want to be a **** and blind every one u have to put them in a projector housing.. they will be very bright and throw light every where if u put them in ur oem housings. But u still can use them theres no issue.

Get 2 55 watt hid kits from ddm tuning and get a relay harness for both kits and get the thicker raptor ballests and don't get them in blue or purple 10,000-13,000k go with 4,300-6000k
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Unread 01-14-2012, 07:00 AM   #11
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basically what there saying is if u don't want to be a **** and blind every one u have to put them in a projector housing.. they will be very bright and throw light every where if u put them in ur oem housings. But u still can use them theres no issue.

Get 2 55 watt hid kits from ddm tuning and get a relay harness for both kits and get the thicker raptor ballests and don't get them in blue or purple 10,000-13,000k go with 4,300-6000k
Why the Raptor and not the slim kit??
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Unread 01-15-2012, 01:26 AM   #12
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the first set of raptor ballests i ordered like maybe 5 years ago and still have them. they were smashed (rubicon vs small tree)lol under water for extended periods of time, covered in mud take to temps well below -20 below zero. i have had the slims and have had them fail. i bought 5 pairs of the slim 2 pairs 35 watt and 3 pairs 55 watt i have a bunch of kc day lighters with them in it and they never last. its nice cause before my new wk all i would do when i got a new car was take the ballests with me and just order new bulbs and make a new relay harness. i sold all my slim ballest and got all raptor kits and couldn't be happier
u get what ever ones u like better but after going threw so many i will never buy slims again. and ddm forgets to tell u that if u send a ballest in to get warranty if it works for them they will charge u a 15 buck test fee per unit plus return shipping which i think was like 17 bucks

sry about spelling trying to type this on a i phone :/
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Unread 01-15-2012, 05:48 AM   #13
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the first set of raptor ballests i ordered like maybe 5 years ago and still have them. they were smashed (rubicon vs small tree)lol under water for extended periods of time, covered in mud take to temps well below -20 below zero. i have had the slims and have had them fail. i bought 5 pairs of the slim 2 pairs 35 watt and 3 pairs 55 watt i have a bunch of kc day lighters with them in it and they never last. its nice cause before my new wk all i would do when i got a new car was take the ballests with me and just order new bulbs and make a new relay harness. i sold all my slim ballest and got all raptor kits and couldn't be happier
u get what ever ones u like better but after going threw so many i will never buy slims again. and ddm forgets to tell u that if u send a ballest in to get warranty if it works for them they will charge u a 15 buck test fee per unit plus return shipping which i think was like 17 bucks

sry about spelling trying to type this on a i phone :/


Good to know. I have the DDM slim now. I was going to order two or three more. Guess I'll go with the Raptors. They're cheaper anyway.
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Unread 01-15-2012, 09:00 AM   #14
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Don't do it, you'll look like another ******* from the 'hood' trying to make his car look 'luxurious'. HIDs are hack and a good pair of halogen bulbs can out perform HIDs any day.
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Unread 01-15-2012, 09:12 AM   #15
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Don't do it, you'll look like another ******* from the 'hood' trying to make his car look 'luxurious'. HIDs are hack and a good pair of halogen bulbs can out perform HIDs any day.
Truth. Search amazon for hir 9012. Yes, hiR. 1750 lumens from 50 watts, exact same filament location, 1800 hr life, $20 apiece, minor trimming to fit, perfect focus. It's a 600+ lumen increase without all the rice.
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