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Unread 09-19-2013, 07:38 PM   #16
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The hemi is overpriced, paid less than that for my 05 at 98,9k. I do love this thing, the power behind it is great. Mine does seem to be a bit more responsive on the gas than the bf's 07 hemi.Being biased I'd say get the hemi.

That being said, if it is your daily driver, you're gonna feel a slap in the face when it comes to gas mileage. The diesel would be a much better option for better gas mileage. Although, if you wanted great gas mileage, you probably wouldn't be purchasing this to begin with.

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Unread 09-19-2013, 08:13 PM   #17
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2005 Hemi have the MDS
I also have MDS with my 2005 5.7L Limited.
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Unread 09-19-2013, 08:45 PM   #18
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CRD for me as I'd rather spend a little more up front but spend less to own it over time and have higher resale when I sell it. Plus I do a lot of towing and highway driving where a diesel is at its best.
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Unread 09-19-2013, 08:55 PM   #19
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Well anything is an improvement for mpg Comepaired to my Dodge ram 1500
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Unread 09-19-2013, 09:13 PM   #20
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I stand corrected i thought i read that they did not have mds in 2005. Sorry.
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Unread 09-19-2013, 09:33 PM   #21
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443 ft-lbs of torque with 3.0 CRD and an Inmotion USA Stage 2 tune plus 26mph highway.

Caveat, don't get a CRD if you don't do your own maintenance and especially if you don't do any highway driving. Diesels do better with long trips and short commutes which do not warm the engine up are not good for engine's longevity.
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Unread 09-19-2013, 09:37 PM   #22
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What is defined as a short commute?
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Unread 09-19-2013, 09:43 PM   #23
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Be careful of the diesel. They are expensive to fix, and very difficult to work on. The Hemi as far as I'm concerned is one of Mopar's most reliable engines. They get decent mileage(with MDS) have plenty of power and sound amazing. I am not sure about exhaust aftertreatment on this vintage of diesel WK but if it does have a DPF. I would steer clear of the diesel.
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Unread 09-19-2013, 11:26 PM   #24
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Be careful of the diesel. They are expensive to fix, and very difficult to work on. The Hemi as far as I'm concerned is one of Mopar's most reliable engines. They get decent mileage(with MDS) have plenty of power and sound amazing. I am not sure about exhaust aftertreatment on this vintage of diesel WK but if it does have a DPF. I would steer clear of the diesel.
For < $300 for a DPF delete pipe from a member here (search for the thread) and then get the GDE ECU Reflash ECO Tune w/ DPF delete for $800 which also disables (you can remove it altogether) the EGR, and swirl motor (replace the DPF with the delete and you are good to go). It also disables the swirl motor issues as well. The ECO tune will boost torque to a stump pulling 465 ft lbs of torque at 1,800 RPM, reduce turbo lag, take .5 a second off your 1/4 mile time (guys are getting mid - low 14's with just the tune), and get 26 - 28 mpg highway (higher with DPF delete).

My neighbor who has a Hemi b!tches and moans about its terrible mpg. He gets ~ 13 mpg on average (50/50 mix of highway / city driving). I get ~ 20 mpg in my CRD under the same driving conditions as him and I don't even have an ECU tune (it's on the list when the extended warranty runs out). I also have 105k on mine and it's still purring along. Tomorrow I head out to the race track and will pull my 5k trailer with car and gear and get 18+ mpg towing.

MBRP (as well as several others) makes a full exhaust from DPF back - and with a DPF delete pipe it is essentially a turbo back.
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Unread 09-20-2013, 08:38 AM   #25
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I have the 07 CRD limited and my wife has 10 Hemi XK. My vote is for the CRD for 2 reasons - fuel mileage and smoother in all conditions and speeds (some call it driving experience). She asked me the other day if we should sell the XK because it just eats fuel. 15 mpg vs CRD at 22-23. BUT like others said make sure you have an MB diesel mech around the area.
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Unread 09-20-2013, 08:40 AM   #26
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Idk how much mods I will do to ether. Probably just cai and exhaust, might but spacers on it what size tires fit with 2inch lift? ..........
1) I don't consider exhaust and CAI to be worthwhile mods for the CRD. I NEVER see my MAF air temps more than 5degrees F above ambient air temp as long as I'm moving faster than 20 MPH (stop N go is another story, and as stated above, something to avoid w/the diesel). I did go for a 3" DPF-back exhaust but other than looks + sound, it didn't do much to improve the truck.

2) get more info than you can imagine in the Wheel N Tire thread:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f67/w...hread-1246013/
chances are if a wheel/tire/lift/spacer combo is not listed there, it's either no darn good or it doesn't exist.
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Unread 09-20-2013, 11:26 AM   #27
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One of the two engines are still used in a Jeep, Dodge, Chrysler. Hemi (EDIT: Wards 10 Best Engines from 2003-2007 and again 2009) is diversified, used in HD rams to Chrysler 300's. CRD has known issues that will cost thousands to correct properly. 3.0 CRD lasted for two years with limited production EDIT: limited production in a jeep (could not be sold in all 50 states).

You are going to get mixed reviews on what is better. Do your own research.

EDIT: 2014 3.0 CRD is not a OM642 made by MB, rather the use of a 3.0 CRD made by VM which is 50% GM. The OM642 is only in production in Germany, applications on the other hand involve Freightliner and MB (both are Daimler companies).
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Unread 09-20-2013, 11:33 AM   #28
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One of the two engines are still in production for use in Jeep, Dodge, Chrysler. Hemi is diversified, used in HD rams to Chrysler 300's. CRD has known issues that will cost thousands to correct properly. 3.0 CRD lasted for two years with limited production (could not be sold in all 50 states).

You are going to get mixed reviews on what is better. Do your own research.
The OM642 CRD diesel is still in production all over the world (including the USA) and has sold more than the Hemi. Just because it is not in the Jeep does not mean it is not in production.

Go diesel or go home....
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Unread 09-20-2013, 12:43 PM   #29
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The gc crd engines are made in Europe afaik anyway. Then shipped around the world.
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Unread 09-20-2013, 02:01 PM   #30
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.....Go diesel or go home....
Words to Live by!

go home with the diesel!
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