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Unread 11-05-2008, 10:17 AM   #1
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help me build my parts list for the perfect lift....

hey guys,

pretty new to the wk side of the website...have spent a bit on the wj and i am looking to use your knowledge just like i did theirs. i compiled lists and opinions on the perfect wj lift last year...went and bought everything and couldnt be happier 60k+ miles later and many wheeling trips. wasnt the cheapest route...but turned out awesome!

now i am on to lifting the wifes wk, 2005 with the 4.6L. i have looked and done searches and it looks like the lift of choice is the 4-4.5 inch range. looking for the best possible lift out there...worried about the quality over price and this wont be wheeled too hard...thats what the wj is for.
-what lift is the best?
-shocks?
-what other parts? wj i ended up with a big list of parts after the lift..sways etc
-what issues will i run into and what can i avoid?

all your input and opinion are greatly appreciated in helping me get everything purchased for this lift.

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-2003 wrangler, 4.0 liter, manual transmission, cd player, sound and light bar, subs, 6 inch lift, 33x12.50

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Unread 11-05-2008, 10:26 AM   #2
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Most people here run the 4" Superlift there are plenty of them on here they would know more than me. do a quick search im sure a lot will pop up.
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Unread 11-05-2008, 05:48 PM   #3
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Don't take any shortcuts on IFS, go with Superlift to avoid headaches and unwanted monthly replacement parts.
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Unread 11-06-2008, 06:50 AM   #4
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I agree if you're going 4", go Super-Lift.
Check out all the threads on it, all the super lift guys love it.

However, I'm not sure of this, but with the OME lift around 3" and with the longer travel OME shocks it may actually have more suspension travel than the Super-Lift.
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Unread 11-09-2008, 05:40 PM   #5
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been looking at posts on the superlift and think i may go that way...but what about all the other detials...what tires will fit? what parts arent gonna come with the kit that are needed? driveshaft issues? cant be as simple as buying the superlift kit installing it with wheels and rolling is it? i know the wj wasnt.
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-2003 wrangler, 4.0 liter, manual transmission, cd player, sound and light bar, subs, 6 inch lift, 33x12.50

-2005 wk 4.7.....waiting to install 4 inch superlift
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Unread 11-09-2008, 08:26 PM   #6
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im going the OME route on my dad's WK in the spring. itll get those custom total choas-esc UCAs when they come out, and i'll probably fab some rear control arms with johnny joints in em.
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Unread 11-10-2008, 07:30 AM   #7
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been looking at posts on the superlift and think i may go that way...but what about all the other detials...what tires will fit? what parts arent gonna come with the kit that are needed? driveshaft issues? cant be as simple as buying the superlift kit installing it with wheels and rolling is it? i know the wj wasnt.
I'm sure the superlift guys will better answer you.
Everything I have read on Super-Lift it is a complete set up & I think you can go with 33's.
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spare 265/70/17 stock location
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Unread 11-10-2008, 09:43 AM   #8
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Superlift comes with everything you need (shocks, skid plate, brake lines). You will need to purchase the EGR Module, this module corrects the geometry for the vehicle stability program. It also corrects the speedo for the tire size, allows for auto-tilt mirrors in reverse, and one touch lane change. 285/70 on 11.5" wheel is the recommended max size, but there are guys on the forum running 34" with no problems.

The ride is excellent on/off road. Install takes about 2.5 days and cost varies with shop....mine was $600. You will not regret this kit!


http://www.superlift.com/suspension/jeep/06-XK.asp

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Unread 11-10-2008, 10:42 AM   #9
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Rusty's Anyone?

Anybody tried the Rusty's Kit 4.5"

http://rustysoffroad.com/mm5/merchan...ry_Code=WKKITS

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Unread 11-10-2008, 12:12 PM   #10
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Anybody tried the Rusty's Kit 4.5"

http://rustysoffroad.com/mm5/merchan...ry_Code=WKKITS

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They don't give a whole lot of information. Do you know if it's suspension lift (springs) or is it more like Super-Lift?
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4xGuard Rails
Stillens
AEV Wheels 5.75 BS
JBA UCA's
GSA 255/75/17 32.1" (no bolt cut/no pinch weld)
spare 265/70/17 stock location
Lockpic, 100,000 club
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Unread 11-10-2008, 12:31 PM   #11
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I think the Rusty's kit is more like the superlift. I am not aware of anyone making a lifting strut for the XK/WK platform (like you can get for an FJ, Tacoma, F-150, etc.) If I'm not mistaken, Old Man Emu makes a spring that replaces the factory front strut spring that will give about 1 or 2" of lift, but everyone else to my knowledge uses a spacer above the factory strut. The rear is lifted with a new spring (with superlift or Rusty's) as opposed to a spacer on the 2" kits like the Rocky Road, BDS and others.

BDS makes a 4" kit for the XK/WK, but they actually source their knuckles from Superlift. They also do not relocate the rear control arms using brackets for ideal suspension geometry. They simply supply a 4" lift spring and longer shocks as I recall. This puts the control arms at a pretty severe static angle, not allowing much more droop. One nice thing about the BDS kit is they supply a new cross-member for the front that is already correctly notched for driveshaft clearance. Superlift requires the cutting and welding of the factory cross-member which I would guess adds at least a couple of hours to the labor side.

I love the superlift kit. My two complaints, neither of which are caused by the kit itself - The heavier tires slightly overwhelm the factory struts, I think the valving is too soft. And also the 1.5" spacers I use put more leverage on the tie-rods/steering rack. I have some play I don't think I would have otherwise - accelerated wear probably. But the superlift kit itself has been great.
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Unread 11-10-2008, 12:50 PM   #12
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sounds like Super-Lift is better.
I have OME HD springs, its closer to 3"
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4xGuard Rails
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GSA 255/75/17 32.1" (no bolt cut/no pinch weld)
spare 265/70/17 stock location
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Unread 11-10-2008, 01:37 PM   #13
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My mistake! Does OME supply new rear springs as well or do they provide a spacer of some type?
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Unread 11-10-2008, 02:05 PM   #14
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Does OME supply new rear springs as well or do they provide a spacer of some type?
OME supplies only front & rear springs & shocks with their setup.
You can chose between Heavy Duty & regular.
I have HD they are advertised as 2" but they are closer to 3". It maybe the regular are closer to 2".
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OME HD Lift about 3"
4xGuard Rails
Stillens
AEV Wheels 5.75 BS
JBA UCA's
GSA 255/75/17 32.1" (no bolt cut/no pinch weld)
spare 265/70/17 stock location
Lockpic, 100,000 club
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Unread 11-10-2008, 08:46 PM   #15
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Maybe you should be the first to try the T and J lifts? Very expensive, but looks like a great setup
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