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Unread 08-13-2013, 02:44 AM   #1
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Guidance of WK build

I am the recent owner of a 2008 WK Limited. My plan in the next few weeks is to lift my WK. It will mostly be for looks and winter driving and light off-roading (beach 4x4 permit).

ALREADY ORDERED/HAVE:
~OME HD lift
~17x7.5 MOAB Wheels (2013 JK Takeoffs)
~255/75/17 Goodyear Wranglers (2013 JK Takeoffs)
~1.5" Spidertrax Spacers

Is there anything else I need to be concerned about or something else I need to order. My worries right now are on whether or not I will have to do the front and/or rear pinch weld mods.??? I really dont want to mess with the structure of the car. What if I didnt install the spacers, would I have the same problem? I just want to know what your guys recommendations would be for me.

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Unread 08-13-2013, 04:41 AM   #2
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I'm not sure what BS is on the wheels you plan on but if you get the correct BS wheels you do not need spacers.
You might save money & the time & hassle of checking the spacers.
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Unread 08-13-2013, 07:57 AM   #3
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I'm not sure what BS is on the wheels you plan on but if you get the correct BS wheels you do not need spacers.
You might save money & the time & hassle of checking the spacers.
I think he'll needs spacers only in the front to clear the caliper. I have the same wheels (and same size tires) on my '09. I think if you use small enough spacers (7/32" or 1/4" I believe) in the front, you can avoid the front pinch weld mod. I just went with 1.5" Spidertraxx spacers because I like how wide the stance is with them on. I had to do the front pinch weld because the front would rub at full lock.
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Unread 08-13-2013, 10:28 AM   #4
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I am the recent owner of a 2008 WK Limited. My plan in the next few weeks is to lift my WK. It will mostly be for looks and winter driving and light off-roading (beach 4x4 permit).

ALREADY ORDERED/HAVE:
~OME HD lift
~17x7.5 MOAB Wheels (2013 JK Takeoffs)
~255/75/17 Goodyear Wranglers (2013 JK Takeoffs)
~1.5" Spidertrax Spacers

Is there anything else I need to be concerned about or something else I need to order. My worries right now are on whether or not I will have to do the front and/or rear pinch weld mods.??? I really dont want to mess with the structure of the car. What if I didnt install the spacers, would I have the same problem? I just want to know what your guys recommendations would be for me.
If you have the tires and wheels and spacers , why not just test fit without the lift and or without spacers and see where everything is . then you can steer lock-lock and jack up the frame by a couple inches to see where everything will sit with the lift . You might as well get this stuff sorted out before you go through the process of having the lift on and it not being exactly what you want .
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Unread 08-13-2013, 02:07 PM   #5
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I think he'll needs spacers only in the front to clear the caliper. I have the same wheels (and same size tires) on my '09. I think if you use small enough spacers (7/32" or 1/4" I believe) in the front, you can avoid the front pinch weld mod. I just went with 1.5" Spidertraxx spacers because I like how wide the stance is with them on. I had to do the front pinch weld because the front would rub at full lock.
^^^ That's correct. I tested everything out before I put my OME lift on. The spidertrax 1.5" spacers will definitely make that size tire rub on the pinch weld at full lock. There's no way to avoid it since you essentially moved everything outward. You will need a small spacer like bhawks said, so you don't rub your front calipers. The moabs won't fit otherwise. As long as you don't plan to do much off roading you should be fine for every day street driving. Just be careful when you do go off road that you don't stuff your tires too much causing the weld to puncture or cause damage.

But by doing the pinch weld mod, you aren't hurting the structural integrity of the car, unless you cut the welds completely off. That would be a big no no. By cutting slits and folding the sections down instead, you keep close to if not as much structural integrity as there would have been with them straight out. Just an fyi.
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Unread 08-14-2013, 07:14 AM   #6
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NO SPACERS!!! Spacers cause rub.. Took mine off and the tires dont rub.. I am running a 265!
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Unread 08-14-2013, 07:29 AM   #7
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NO SPACERS!!! Spacers cause rub.. Took mine off and the tires dont rub.. I am running a 265!
Did you read the thread? He needs spacers to clear the front caliper if he's going to use those wheels. Don't just blindly tell someone who is obviously new (to WK, don't mean to offend here ) not to use spacers...that's why the pinch weld mod exists.
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Unread 08-14-2013, 07:31 AM   #8
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Unread 08-14-2013, 08:35 AM   #9
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yeah good one man
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Unread 08-21-2013, 10:41 PM   #10
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Thanks everyone for their replies. I banged out the front pinch welds the other day...a lot easier to do than I expected. I ended up using Gorllia Tape and Truck Undercoating to patch up the wheel well liner which came out pretty good.

NEXT QUESTION: Is it necessary to do the rear pinch weld mod with my potential setup? (OME HD Lift, 17x7.5 MOAB Wheels, 255/75/17 tires, 1.5" Spacers) If it helps, I am not looking to get into serious offroading where I am looking for full articulation
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Unread 08-21-2013, 10:55 PM   #11
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Thanks everyone for their replies. I banged out the front pinch welds the other day...a lot easier to do than I expected. I ended up using Gorllia Tape and Truck Undercoating to patch up the wheel well liner which came out pretty good.

NEXT QUESTION: Is it necessary to do the rear pinch weld mod with my potential setup? (OME HD Lift, 17x7.5 MOAB Wheels, 255/75/17 tires, 1.5" Spacers) If it helps, I am not looking to get into serious offroading where I am looking for full articulation
I have the same setup. Rear pinch weld mod would help, but is definitely not necessary. I don't have it done and I haven't experienced any negative effects. I've been off the road a couple of times with this setup and have experienced no issues.
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Unread 08-21-2013, 11:05 PM   #12
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I have the same setup. Rear pinch weld mod would help, but is definitely not necessary. I don't have it done and I haven't experienced any negative effects. I've been off the road a couple of times with this setup and have experienced no issues.
Awesome. How do you like your setup?
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Unread 08-22-2013, 06:52 AM   #13
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If you take the spacers off you wont have to do any pinch weld mods.. (Hint Hint)
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Unread 08-22-2013, 07:19 AM   #14
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If you take the spacers off you wont have to do any pinch weld mods.. (Hint Hint)
Yup, I know. Ill def need atleast a .25'' spacers (or similar) for the front atleast due to the calipers
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Unread 08-22-2013, 07:33 AM   #15
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Awesome. How do you like your setup?
I love it!

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If you take the spacers off you wont have to do any pinch weld mods.. (Hint Hint)
Hey, maybe you should post this again. Should he use spacers?
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