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Unread 10-31-2012, 08:19 PM   #1
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Grabber AT2 vs Toyo Open Country AT2

There really are not enough of these posts.... sorry guys.

I got my recent setup(posted in my signature) around 2000 miles ago, and had I known then what I knew now, I'd have went a different direction.

I'm planning on moving to Utah in the next few months, SLC area likely, and the tire tread is not allowed to stick out past the fender line, at least in a obtrustive sorta way, unless one has fender flares . Anyway... I'm starting over a bit. Dropping down to a 265/70/17 with some 3/4" BORA spacers.

I'm a bit torn. I like the look of both, both are E-load range (which some think is a bit of overkill, but I like the durability) and neither will be even close in weight to the 68lbs of my Nittos. Price is good too.... 199 per for the Grabbers and 204 for the Toyos mounted and balanced. Does anyone have any experience with the original Toyo AT's or the Grabber AT2s? Pros/cons... opinions?

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Unread 10-31-2012, 08:23 PM   #2
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Some eye candy since the Toyos are new...





Shoulda mentioned, according to Toyo, the 4-plys are a tighter shallower tread pattern, the LT's are a bit deeper and more open, and the Specialty sizes are even wider and deeper, and say Xtreme on the sidewall... fancy huh? I'll just get the regular LTs.
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Unread 10-31-2012, 08:25 PM   #3
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Geez I'm blowin up my own thread here... but I forgot to mention, I'm not considering any other tires at this point. I have my reasons.
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Unread 11-01-2012, 12:35 AM   #4
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I can't really add anything except that I went with 255/75 for a few reasons: 1) I didn't want the tires sticking out. 2) the km1 is super cheap on Craigslist. I bought four take offs for $400. They had 18/32 tread depth when I think 19/32 is new.

I'm jealous about the move man. That is one of my favorite parts of the country. If I could move anywhere, I'd probably move to there.

Great skiing!

Why the move?
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Unread 11-01-2012, 06:12 AM   #5
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Utah = Snow = Dedicated Snow Tire or a MT/AT Hybrid like a Goodyear DuraTrac.
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Unread 11-01-2012, 06:50 AM   #6
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I heard great things about the DuraTrac, I plan on running the MTRs cause another XK in the area is running them and loves them in the snow,rain, mud anything.. Id suggest the DuraTracs like stated above if your changing out, but also Im interested if you are selling you're Trail Grapplers..
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Unread 11-01-2012, 09:43 AM   #7
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The grabber at2's are a tread copy of the bfg at. I have the bfg's on my s10 4x4 year round and they are great in snow. Grabber At2's should be great also.

Ill be putting 245/70/17 grabber at2's on this summer when i swap my winters out.
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Unread 11-01-2012, 11:17 AM   #8
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Duratracs aren't an option for me, they're almost 300 a tire mounted and balanced, whereas I can get the Toyos or the Generals for 200 a tire.

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I can't really add anything except that I went with 255/75 for a few reasons: 1) I didn't want the tires sticking out. 2) the km1 is super cheap on Craigslist. I bought four take offs for $400. They had 18/32 tread depth when I think 19/32 is new.

I'm jealous about the move man. That is one of my favorite parts of the country. If I could move anywhere, I'd probably move to there.

Great skiing!

Why the move?
Time for a change of scenery. Missouri isn't doing it for me anymore, not to mention I have friends, family, and a lady friend in Utah. =)
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Unread 11-01-2012, 11:21 AM   #9
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I heard great things about the DuraTrac, I plan on running the MTRs cause another XK in the area is running them and loves them in the snow,rain, mud anything.. Id suggest the DuraTracs like stated above if your changing out, but also Im interested if you are selling you're Trail Grapplers..

I paid quite a bit for my set honestly, almost 305/per tire for the 285/70/17 Trail Grapplers... I have about 1500 miles on them, I haven't measured the tread depth recently, but they have only been down a few gravel roads and on pavement at this point, and are barely worn.
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Unread 11-01-2012, 12:12 PM   #10
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Ok they are still used though, I know they are expensive like the MTRs.. When it comes time post a price if I think its fair Ill let you know if not worst case we both say no. I have the BFG ATs and hate their performance in mud so if you plan any mudding keep that in mind as generals are similar tread pattern, although they are rated excellent in snow. Personally Id do the Toyo's b/w the 2 set you are looking at
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Unread 11-08-2012, 07:03 PM   #11
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Getting the Toyos mounted tomorrow. Also, sold my Trail Grapplers while they're still mounted on my rig!
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Unread 11-09-2012, 03:01 PM   #12
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Those new toyos look good. The siping looks a bit shallow. Let us know how you like them.
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Unread 11-09-2012, 03:30 PM   #13
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Just a side note since the OP already bought tires, but it was mentioned here...

The Grabber AT2's are not the same as the BFG ATs. The BFG pattern is C-shaped lugs. The AT2's lugs are designed similarly to a classic MT tread but with close spacing.

I've had 2 sets of the BFG's (two different vehicles) and was not impressed at all. However, I've had the Grabber AT2s and was very impressed with that tire. I'd recommend the Grabber AT2 over the BFG AT (this includes mud/snow/sand... typical NJ terrain).
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Unread 11-09-2012, 07:16 PM   #14
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I have AT2's, in Utah, in Salt Lake snow. They rock! They are also pretty quiet on the road.
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Unread 11-09-2012, 07:53 PM   #15
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I went the at2s... the toyo ones. Pictures forthcoming tomorrow, because I had a lot of BS going on this afternoon.
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