General Grabber AT2 vs Toyo Open Country ATII vs GY Duratrac
Putting new rubber on this week, need to make a decision. Going 265/70/17, was between GG at2 and Duratracs, but recently saw pretty good numbers on the Toyo tires too. The Duratrac is by far the more expensive of the three, and has the lowest tread wear life. I know so many on here swear by them, guess that's why they are still in the running. I'm really looking for an aggressive tread pattern, and as I drive 4-6000 miles per year, tread life/wear really isn't an issue for me, whatever tire I pick is going to last for years. Any input you guys have for road noise, wet, snow, dry handling, off-road manners, etc will be much appreciated and help me make a decision.
Ive had the general grabber at2 since spring of 2013. So maybe 10k miles. Wearing great. I have rotated them once. I have not had to put ANY air in them since new. Great on snow and ice, mud, rocks, highway. They hum a bit but its a pleasant hum of a true a/t.
I'm glad to hear it, been leaning towards them. The Duratracs are maybe a bit too aggressive for me. I don't do a lot of wheeling, I'll do some light trail riding, but not gonna be crawling or heavy mud for me. Just want to gather as much info as possible before I pull the trigger on a set. Thanks for your input moderblueWK, it's very appreciated.
We have the Grabber AT2 on both Jeeps and for an all purpose tire they are great for the price. We've been on the beach (Democrat Point/Fire Island and Sore Thumb Beach/Jones Beach Island) and they work great in the sand aired down to 12-10 psi.
I have a set of the Toyo's on mine. I've only had them for a few weeks now, but I've tested them in mud/snow/ice and they're flawless. They are also pretty quiet on paved surfaces, which is a plus for me cause I can't stand a rough-riding tire ha. Size-wise I'm running a 245/75/17.
General Grabber AT2 here also and have only one complaint, when very cold (like 10 degrees and below) for about a half mile there is a flat spot when you first start out in one of the tires, not a big deal, otherwise I'm very happy with them, excellent snow tire,
255/65/17 at2's on mine. Awesome tire. Great in snow, rain have 14K on them hardly any wear. Never had to add air. Love them would buy again.
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I've had all 3 on my rig.... it's a win-win-win decision.
In your situation, i'd highly recommend the Duratracs. They're no louder than the grabbers were. The Toyos are the quietest/smoothest riding of the three, but are #3 ranked offroad and snow/ice traction.
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As for the truck, pick it up in the morning, his supplier showed up today with grabber HTS, not AT2. So rubber in the morning, pics as soon as I get the keys!
I think you made the right choice for your driving. I would have picked the Grabber AT2's but I picked the Duratrac for purely vanity reasons.
For the benefit of anyone reading this when researching, I am a little mixed on the Duratrac (mostly because of decisions I made). I wanted a bad-a$$ looking tire but still maximize fuel economy so I picked a relatively skinny 255/75R17 which comes out to just over 32". The truck rated (D / E load rating) were about 25 lbs heavier each IIRC and so I went with the passenger car (which is somewhat of a misnomer... the weight rating is more than sufficient) tires. I believe these two things have contributed to less than 100% results. I believe the reason Duratracs can work on a DD is for DD work you are traveling on the center part of the tread which is very much like an AT tire. Well with my skinny tire, that means less center tread, and with a fairly high weight, I am traveling on the outer portion of the tread as well and getting a fair amount of noise. In addition, the tread seems to be wearing fairly quickly, especially on the front (makes sense, more weight). I actually think I would get less noise and better MPG with MORE width which is counter-intuitive. Also I believe the light truck rated tires have a deeper tread than the passenger car tires which obviously means more tread life. I will say that I still think that the light truck tires might be overkill (especially with the weight penalty) but conversely I believe they would be a little more stable towing. Mine tows fine with the relatively light loads (~2000 lbs) I've put on it but you can tell the difference vs. a true LT tire.
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