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Unread 06-25-2011, 12:44 PM   #46
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UtahWK if you "rear seat" squeak is more like a creak (like an old creaking wooden ship) then fold the seats down squirt some WD-40 or put some grease on the mechanisim that locks the back seats in the upright position. It worked for me!!! It happened when I would turn a corner or pull into a driveway and it sounded like a creaking noise that would travel from one side to the next. Hope this helps!
Thank you, that is a perfect description of the sound. I'm hoping to get the Jeep back this afternoon and I'll give it a try. I would be so happy to get rid of the noise that easily. My father-in-law has it right now trying to track down an electrical problem (you can look at the thread I started to see a description of the problem). It's nice having a mechanic in the fam that just charges for parts!

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Unread 06-25-2011, 05:13 PM   #47
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Anytime! Hope it works for you, I sprayed wd-40 on it first then put a little brake grease on the latches that the rear seats hook onto and the sound completely disappeared and hasn't come back, it's been 4 months! Let me know if it works for you.
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Unread 09-03-2011, 12:57 PM   #48
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Well, I did sway links and bar bushings like many have and it definitely made difference but still have some cluck up front.

Just put Monroe reflexes on hoping to completely get rid of the clunck....still clunks.

Replaced an upper ball joint....still clunks.

Replaced rack and pinion three times (whole another story) . That was the cause for most of the clunking, but something is still clunking.

Another clunk that I have not seen posted was the front calibers.....What happens is the slide pins get wore out and the grease comes out. Mine where clunking very bad. New slide pins and rubber gaskets all good.

Did the front diff bushings too, that had no affect surprisingly...

BUT.......I still have a clunk.......grrrrrr
the upper ball joints are replaceable? or did you replace the whole upper control arm?
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Unread 09-03-2011, 01:01 PM   #49
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The upper ball joints are replaceable.
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Unread 09-03-2011, 01:21 PM   #50
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oh thank god! the upper control arms them selves are 160$ a peice. The dealership told me i couldnt just replace just the ball joint. But they also said you cant adjust the camber after you lift a WK... idiots. Do they just press out like normal ball joints? I cant find it in my service manual on how to replace them.
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Unread 09-03-2011, 01:31 PM   #51
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Yup. Press in and out. Careful when pressing the new ones in as its at an angle and very easy to not get the ball joint in there just right. Easiest way is to just pull the arm. Two bolts and waalaa.
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Unread 09-03-2011, 07:19 PM   #52
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the upper ball joints are replaceable? or did you replace the whole upper control arm?

Took the jeep to the stealership.......they cant figure it out either!!!! BUT it doesn't surprise me....
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Unread 09-22-2011, 06:07 PM   #53
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I'm going to replace my bushings as well on my 06 XK. I wasn't able to get a good measurement of the diameter of my sway bar so I don't know what size to order. The part number for the sway bar is 52090154AE. I tried searching for that part number to get the dimensions but I couldn't locate the dimensions. Anyone know the diameter of this sway bar with that part number? I'm thinking with the 3.7L it would be the smaller sway bar, but with the XK being bigger than the WK, I could see it being the bigger sway bar.
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Unread 09-24-2011, 08:02 AM   #54
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Can dealer tell you?

You need to know whether you have the ribbed bushing holders or not too. If you don't have, you need to replace those as well. I'll bet the dealer can tell you what size you have, or borrow some calipers from someone and measure the diameter. Or take an adjustable wrench, tighten on the sway bar, pull off, then transfer that opening dimension to a scale off the vehicle (with wrench biased open to remove any slack)
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Unread 09-24-2011, 09:21 AM   #55
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my jeep was clunking very loud when i first bought it, almost any imperfection in the road made it clunk. i ended up replacing the sway bar bushing with the new style bushings and brackets and also the links cause they looked very worn out as well.

This solved my issues then. Now i got a clunk back but in a different form. I just had a shop install my OME HD kit and now i get a clunk but only when a more severe bump is hit like a pot hole that is a few inches below the normal pavement or pot hole or speed bump.

ive read a few posts on here that the upper control arm can hit the spring after this lift is installed. could it be the control arm is hitting the spring when the shock and spring fully sags?
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Unread 10-17-2011, 12:01 PM   #56
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Update on my original post: I replaced my bushings in December '10, and in the last month the noise was back again. I had to again replace those bushings and the noise went away again. Not very good, if the bushings only last 10 months!! I replaced them with the same blue Raybestos parts from Rock Auto - let's see how long these last. If they wear out quickly again, I'll try a different brand or maybe OEM.
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Unread 10-17-2011, 02:03 PM   #57
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Mine are shot again as well, I removed my sway bar and the noise was gone. I got 14,000 miles out of the Raybesto's bushings.
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Unread 10-17-2011, 04:52 PM   #58
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Our Commander's bushings are clunking again after about 5000 miles using the Moog blue ones. Time to try OEM rubber I would guess. Sometimes there is nothing better than rubber. I'll let you know if new ones fix it again. Sounds like a pretty common problem, but fortunately easy to fix.
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Unread 10-17-2011, 05:14 PM   #59
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I fought the same clunk for months replacing sway bar bushing and all kinds of stuff. Got fed up one day and disconnected the sway bar. Low and behold.... End links! My advice to you would be start there. ExspeciAlly if your jeep is lifted

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Unread 11-24-2011, 10:07 AM   #60
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Our Commander's bushings are clunking again after about 5000 miles using the Moog blue ones. Time to try OEM rubber I would guess. Sometimes there is nothing better than rubber. I'll let you know if new ones fix it again. Sounds like a pretty common problem, but fortunately easy to fix.
Don't buy the Moog blue ones, go with OEM. I installed yesterday. The blue ones are a harder plastic and were visibly made oval after a short time. Not worn, the plastic moved out of the way, leaving a gap that was easy to find with a pry bar pushing on the sway bar, like 1/8".

The OEM's are soft rubber and have an anti-friction fabric molded on the inside. They are purposely a little too big so the brackets have to be pulled on with the bolts (the sway bar is squeezed tight). I suspect these will work much better and last longer. The vehicle feels great.

Good luck.
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