Front suspension clunk over potholes...Ball joints ? - JeepForum.com

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 86 Old 11-14-2010, 11:55 AM Thread Starter
ianrmz250
Registered User
2007 WK 
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Hertfordshire England UK
Posts: 228
Front suspension clunk over potholes...Ball joints ?

Hi
My CRD has now done 43000 miles and over the past 6 months or so the front suspension on both sides has developed a clunk over potholes, drain covers etc.which is gradually getting worse.I have studied the parts drawings for the suspension and seems there are numerous bushes , and balljoints that could be at fault.What should i replace first? is there a known weak area with this suspension eg.balljoints ?.
It is a standard CRD with standard original suspension that doesn,t go off road that frequently (used to tow horse trailer).

ianrmz250 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 86 Old 11-14-2010, 02:36 PM
fitbmxseries1
Registered User
1987 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: fond du lac, WI
Posts: 1,217
what usualy will go first is swaybar links. you can unbolt them and drive it over a bump and see if it goes away. then if you hear dont hear the clunk replace them. also most shops when they do oilchanges will diagnose the issue for you for free, usualy so they can repair it though.

2005 Jeep grand Cherokee WK 2" rough country lift 1.25 wheel spacers 255/75/17
Blue WK club #5
1987 Jeep Wrangler YJ, random leafspring budget lift ith 33s on 16s and V8 swap.
1999 Jeep Cherokee XJ --SOLD.
fitbmxseries1 is offline  
post #3 of 86 Old 11-14-2010, 02:59 PM Thread Starter
ianrmz250
Registered User
2007 WK 
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Hertfordshire England UK
Posts: 228
Thanks for the response,i will try disconecting the sway bar links.
ianrmz250 is offline  
post #4 of 86 Old 11-14-2010, 03:23 PM
Dachy
Registered User
2006 XK Commander 
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by fitbmxseries1 View Post
what usualy will go first is swaybar links. you can unbolt them and drive it over a bump and see if it goes away. then if you hear dont hear the clunk replace them. also most shops when they do oilchanges will diagnose the issue for you for free, usualy so they can repair it though.
I second that .. experienced most likely same clunking noise over uneven roads. Replaced sway bar end-links ... all good now. Unexpensive and easy repair
Dachy is offline  
post #5 of 86 Old 12-20-2010, 12:59 PM
mwalters2
Registered User
2005 WK 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Monroe
Posts: 39
I found that it's actually the swaybar bushings and not the end links. It seems they made a design change to try to help the situation. At least on my '05, if you order new bushings, you will have to also replace the clamps to go with the superseded design. The updated bushing part number is 52089465AF, and has a different shape that won't fit with the original clamp. The updated clamp to go with it is 52090474AB. I used a Raybestos part (5501588) from RockAuto.com for the bushing. You'll notice that the split is on a different side as well.

Here's the old and new, side by side:


Here are some pics of it installed.....

Passenger Side:

Driver's Side:


NO MORE NOISE!!

Last edited by mwalters2; 12-21-2010 at 02:38 PM. Reason: Fixed photos
mwalters2 is offline  
post #6 of 86 Old 12-21-2010, 12:30 PM
cobrakillerta
Registered User
2006 WK 
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 109
Quote:
Originally Posted by mwalters2 View Post
I found that it's actually the swaybar bushings and not the end links. It seems they made a design change to try to help the situation. At least on my '05, if you order new bushings, you will have to also replace the clamps to go with the superseded design. The updated bushing part number is 52089465AF, and has a different shape that won't fit with the original clamp. The updated clamp to go with it is 52090474AB. I used a Raybestos part (5501588) from RockAuto.com for the bushing. You'll notice that the split is on a different side as well.

NO MORE NOISE!!
That's some good info...I actually have the same exact Raybestos bushings from rock auto waiting to be installed, will they NOT work with my stock/original '05 clamp?
cobrakillerta is offline  
post #7 of 86 Old 12-21-2010, 01:28 PM
Munch520
Registered User
2015 WK 
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 157
Quote:
Originally Posted by mwalters2 View Post
I found that it's actually the swaybar bushings and not the end links. It seems they made a design change to try to help the situation. At least on my '05, if you order new bushings, you will have to also replace the clamps to go with the superseded design. The updated bushing part number is 52089465AF, and has a different shape that won't fit with the original clamp. The updated clamp to go with it is 52090474AB. I used a Raybestos part (5501588) from RockAuto.com for the bushing. You'll notice that the split is on a different side as well.
pics dont work...I have an 05 as well...so I need 5209047AB (who'd you order these from?) + bushing 5501588?
Munch520 is offline  
post #8 of 86 Old 12-21-2010, 02:29 PM
mwalters2
Registered User
2005 WK 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Monroe
Posts: 39
Trying to fix the pictures now.... If your clamp looks like the top one in the first pic, then no - the updated bushings will not fit. Notice the rib or bead running down the middle of the newer clamp. The updated bushing has the same shape. I got the updated clamp (52090474AB) at dodge-wholesale.com for $6.33 each, plus shipping. The Raybestos bushings (5501588) came from RockAuto.com for $15.23 plus shipping for the pair.

Last edited by mwalters2; 12-21-2010 at 02:50 PM. Reason: Added info....
mwalters2 is offline  
post #9 of 86 Old 12-21-2010, 07:55 PM
truterbusch
Registered User
2006 WK 
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Bay City, MI
Posts: 33
Awesome post. Ive had this problem for a bit now. I tested my swaybar by disconnecting the links and no clunk. Im definately gonna order the new bushings/ mounts if needed. Ive read quite a bit of posts with people who have had similar problems. Some people replaced some pretty expensive components with no clunk fix. This will hopefully help many. Cheers.

06' WK 3.7 65th Jeep green QTII
wood dash kit, commander shift knob, yellow fog lamp covers for snow, thule 4 snowboard rack. Almost all stock for now.
truterbusch is offline  
post #10 of 86 Old 12-21-2010, 08:00 PM
cmdrjim
Registered User
2006 XK Commander 
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Richmond
Posts: 356
Quote:
Originally Posted by mwalters2 View Post
Trying to fix the pictures now.... If your clamp looks like the top one in the first pic, then no - the updated bushings will not fit. Notice the rib or bead running down the middle of the newer clamp. The updated bushing has the same shape. I got the updated clamp (52090474AB) at dodge-wholesale.com for $6.33 each, plus shipping. The Raybestos bushings (5501588) came from RockAuto.com for $15.23 plus shipping for the pair.
Which way did you put the bushing slit?
cmdrjim is offline  
post #11 of 86 Old 12-21-2010, 08:05 PM
mwalters2
Registered User
2005 WK 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Monroe
Posts: 39
I put the slit down. I reasoned that when the suspension compresses, the LCA goes up, which will put an upward force on the sway bar. I wanted the slit away from this force. If you zoom in on the installed pics, you can just barely make it out. That said, with the clamp holding in place tight, it probably won't matter too much.
mwalters2 is offline  
post #12 of 86 Old 12-22-2010, 06:47 AM
Munch520
Registered User
2015 WK 
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 157
ok hm I looked briefly last night and my mounting setup looks different (2005 4.7l) so I'll check again tonight

2005 WK (sold)
2008 Liberty
2012 Rubicon (sold)
2015 GC Altitude
Munch520 is offline  
post #13 of 86 Old 12-22-2010, 06:53 AM
mwalters2
Registered User
2005 WK 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Monroe
Posts: 39
Mine is also a 2005 4.7L....

2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Larado 4.7L
mwalters2 is offline  
post #14 of 86 Old 12-22-2010, 07:08 AM
Munch520
Registered User
2015 WK 
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 157
doh! ya know what...I was looking at the end links

2005 WK (sold)
2008 Liberty
2012 Rubicon (sold)
2015 GC Altitude
Munch520 is offline  
post #15 of 86 Old 12-22-2010, 10:28 AM
Jeeprage
Registered User
 
Jeeprage's Avatar
1986 CJ7 
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Braintree
Posts: 684
I went by a dealer and they checked out the sway bar bushings with me and said they were fine (and they did look like new), I ended up ordering end links from Rock Auto (against the dealer's advice, also saying they looked good) and they did nothing.

I eventually replaced shocks with Bilsteins at the same time I put on the SRT rear bar on, and no more clunks. I think it was shocks clunking, or whatever was touched during install, fixed it. Rides better, handles better, and no clunks.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

2015 JKU - 6m
Jeeprage is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the JeepForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid e-mail address for yourself.



Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Jeep Forums Replies Last Post
All new bushing and ball joints in front end chrisbean ZJ Grand Cherokee Forum 2 04-05-2010 09:06 PM
Front ball joints FlipFlop425 ZJ Grand Cherokee Forum 18 03-21-2009 12:11 PM
Bad Front hub bearings OR ball joints? jerry1847 ZJ Grand Cherokee Forum 7 04-14-2008 01:44 PM
Lubricating steering and suspension ball joints chrisstromberg ZJ Grand Cherokee Forum 21 06-10-2007 10:28 AM
Clunk clunk front end suspension noise. Need help/advise. jeep_zj98 ZJ Grand Cherokee Forum 11 01-02-2007 11:22 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome